Yes, of course and thank you for asking. And the 60 year old said the word "Cool!" I am still thinking and praying about this. but think about this: "kingdom" as in kingdom of heaven (and etc.) is a NT idea. Father as in Father God is a NT idea -- or perhaps I should say "emphasis>." Sonship is NT. But more than this -- what about "saved" and "lost." Not OT. for in the OT, they were simply destroyed or left alone unless they were the children of Israel. Reconciliation is a NT reality -- very little said about it in the Old. so when Jere 31:34 forcasts a covenant
"not like the one " they had when they came from Egypt -- well it was, in deed, different. Back in the old days, when I was in school, I was taught that the NCovenant would not be similar to ..... All of the above puts emphasis into that idea.
Kingdom -- the biblical message moves from a national idea of kingdom to a supernational idea, perhaps.
I am curious as to the changes in the thinking of the Jews during the inter-testament period. Did they come to speak of God as their Father during that time, or is this type of speech pretty much original with Christ. Did I say "Christ?" Even the reality about Him and His coming was different than the Jews supposed.
"Kingdom" is used differently -- much to do and so little time, Charles Perry. Hopefully, those 178 times the Lord used the word will be enough to get into His mind, as it were, and gather His thinking. He is breaking with tradition, thats for sure -- so "kingdom" epistemology may be of limited help.
Give me a minute !!
JD
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Subject: [TruthTalk] The Kingdom
John,
I would really like to read some more of your thoughts and the results of your research on the Kingdom, if you don't mind sharing it with us.
Perry
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>A few interesting facts
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>"kingdom" is nearly always used of the physical kingdom(s) in the O.T. >scriptures. In the new testamnt, it occurs 137 times; 100 of those times >used by Christ. Kingdom of heaven, of God, kingdom,
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>It is almost always physical in the Old -- nearly always spiritual in the >New/
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>"Faather" is used twice in the Old in reference to God; 256 times in the >New !!!
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>"children of Israel " in the Old
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>"children of God" in the new.
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>Sonship is a NT concept as well.
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>God as a personal God is a NT concept -- different from the Old.
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>I am doing a study on the kingdom, for myself after Lance gave >encouragement for the study.
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I would really like to read some more of your thoughts and the results of your research on the Kingdom, if you don't mind sharing it with us.
Perry
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>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave >uses Socratic Met
>Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 23:38:12 -0400
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>A few interesting facts
>
>"kingdom" is nearly always used of the physical kingdom(s) in the O.T. >scriptures. In the new testamnt, it occurs 137 times; 100 of those times >used by Christ. Kingdom of heaven, of God, kingdom,
>
>It is almost always physical in the Old -- nearly always spiritual in the >New/
>
>"Faather" is used twice in the Old in reference to God; 256 times in the >New !!!
>
>
>"children of Israel " in the Old
>
>"children of God" in the new.
>
>Sonship is a NT concept as well.
>
>God as a personal God is a NT concept -- different from the Old.
>
>
>
>I am doing a study on the kingdom, for myself after Lance gave >encouragement for the study.
>
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"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every ma n." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org
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