Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT

[Dave Hansen]

All three of those say it is a false religion. DAVEH:    And you would give any consideration that what I say might be true, Perry?  Do you want me to dig out any of the exchanges you had with DavidM about what you think of any truth that may be found in Mormonism.....?     As I've previously pointed out....what's the point of discussing LDS theology with you, Perry?   As you must know by now, I did not come to TT to preach LDS theology, so why do you expect me discuss it with you when clearly your intention is to....... expose and stimulate discussion on the non-biblical and heretical aspects of mormon beliefs. ........Like I said before Perry, what's in it for me other than a bloody nose! Charles Perry Locke wrote: Dave, I don't mind if you choose not to answer, but no need to whine about it. If you and I are through discussing things on TT, then so be it. You said if I want to know what mormons believe, then I sould ask a mormon. I did that, but he has no answer for me. Who should I turn to for the truth about mormonism? The bible? Kevin?  The internet? All three of those say it is a false religion. Perry DAVEH:  For what reason should I explain why/where you are wrong about my beliefs, Perry.  I don't mind explaining to those who really want to know what I believe, but in your case it seems your intention is to denigrate my beliefs.    You've stated that your mission (so to speak) is to discredit Mormonism.....in effect meeting the definition of an anti-Mormon.  So for what reason would you want to query me about Mormonism, if it is not to denigrate that in which I believe?    Along with that, you continue to disbelieve my stated reason for joining TT years ago.  You can believe as you wish, Perry....but if you effectively want to post that I am lying about my reasons for being here, then I see no particular reason to hand you the knife with which you intend to use to carve up my faith. Charles Perry Locke wrote: Actually, the problem I have is not with Dave stating mormon beliefs, especially when asked. It is his teaching mormon doctrines, but denying that he is doing so. I am for openest...but honesty, too. Dave,   If I am "somewhat close", can you tell me the part I am wrong about? You always say if I want to know what mormons believe, ask a mormon... Perry Charles Perry Locke wrote: Dave,   Christians consider angels and humans to be two distinct types of created beings. DAVEH:  Yes, I understand that.  Yet, it seems Paul is telling us that it is difficult (if not impossible) to tell us (mortals) apart from angels. Correct me if I am wrong, but don't mormons consider angels to be either pre-mortal or post-mortal humans? For example, don't mormons consider Michael (the archangel) also to have been a human at one point...was it Adam? Hasn't he also been considered to be the mormon god the father? So, basically, one being can be spirit, angel, human, or god at various times. Am I right on this? DAVEH:  You are somewhat close. Perry -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.