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C'mon Perry! Why not just take a poll of all on TT?
I, for one, vote with Dave Hansen on this.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: May 27, 2005 03:36
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon
angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT
DAVEH: Word game, Perry?!?!?! You
must realize that you are trying to force me into a dilemma. IF I
were to answer as you want me to, I would be lying. Though my
memory may be weak, I surely know my reasons for joining TT and continue to
remain steadfast in my explanation of why I came to TT....to learn what
Protestants believe, and why they believe such. If I were to
concede to your whining, it would effectively make me a liar in
an effort to placate you and any other TTers who want to impose their beliefs
on me. Why should I lie simply to make you happy, Perry? I really
find it rather surprising that you would be comfortable encouraging another
person to transgress, when you supposedly believe doing so is a violation of
God's law. Why would you want to sin, Perry....to make you feel better
at my eternal expense?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
David, Dave is smarter than you are giving him credit for being.
He knows what he is doing. He is playing a word game. I have no problem with
him pushing his mormon views into the discussions here...I just want him to
acknowledge that is what he is doing. He is intentionally misinterpreting
this as my not wanting him to espouse mormonism on the forum. That is NOT my
goal. My goal is to get him to own his actions. To say he is NOT pushing
mormonism, then push it anyway is disengenuous. Then, to turn it around as
though I do not welcome his mormon views is a lie.
Perry
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses
Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT Date: Wed, 25 May 2005
09:09:31 -0400
DaveH wrote: > Apparently many TTers want me
to teach LDS theology on > TT, yet some wish to criticize me for
complying with their wishes. > Seems like a no win situation, eh
Lance.
Let me clarify yet again what TruthTalk is all about and
Dave Hansen's situation in regards to this forum.
TruthTalk is
meant to be a forum where people from different religions and
different backgrounds can share their beliefs and teachings with the
rest of us. We, in turn, can judge what they teach and examine
it. We can raise objections or questions concerning what is
being said. The goal is learning and getting a better
undertanding of both what we believe and what others believe.
Dave Hansen is LDS Mormon and he has as much right here as anybody
else to teach or post his views. In like manner, his teachings
will be examined and questioned by others. This is the nature of
the forum. I would not say that it is a "no win situation" just
because a person's viewpoint is criticized in this forum. If you
share your views, expect some examination and perhaps criticism if
someone thinks that the viewpoint deserves such.
Now in regards to
the question of why DaveH is here. I have read both Dave and
Perry's exchange on this, and personally I find Dave's reasons for being
here consistent. He has an interest in knowing what Protestants
believe and why. He interacts with us, and in doing so, is
questioned about his beliefs. He responds to such questions in a
way that he is comfortable. Often the exchange hits a dead end, and
some TruthTalk members get frustrated with that (me included), but I
don't think that means that his reasons for being here are not being
stated properly. Some have interpreted him to be implying that
he wants to become a Protestant if he hears good answers for what
Protestants believe, but I have never understood him that way.
He is simply curious and has an academic interest in what motivates us
and what makes us who we are. I'm sure Christians not affiliated
with a major institution seems very strange to him. His life is
centered around an institution of authority. That is the kind of
structure he is use to and is comfortable with. Many of us
reject such institutions. I think Dave is still trying to
understand why and how this is. I suspect it would be easier for
him to understand us if we were all Roman Catholic.
Peace be with
you. David Miller.
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