Let's just assume that you are correct in your assumption is quite correct
concerning the 'dreaded' DaveH (I actually don't believe you are), can't you
just overlook it and, move on? My goodness Perry, it's turning into the
mountain/molehill thingy.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: May 28, 2005 14:35
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses
Socratic Method of Teac


> Lance,
>
>    Believe me, I am trying to bring this thing to a close as quickly as I
> can. I have already dispensed with our first point of contention, and am
> working on the second.
>
> Perry
>
> >From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses
Socratic
> >Method of Teac
> >Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 13:44:56 -0400
> >
> >CPL:Paaaaaalllllllllleeeeeeeeessseee leave off this harangue! Can't you
get
> >past this? Do we need to be looking for another moderator? I ain't got a
> >'snowball's chance' but maybe it'd be me. Yikes!
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Dave
> >   To: [email protected]
> >   Sent: May 28, 2005 13:40
> >   Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic
> >Method of Teac
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Charles Perry Locke wrote:
> >     Dave,
> >
> >
> >       The LIE I accused you of was making me out to be against mormons
> >posting on TT,
> >   DAVEH:   ???   Huh?   What are you talking about, Perry?
> >
> >     when I have NEVER been against that. I felt that you intentionally
> >twisted it around, and made it appear as though I objected to your
posting
> >mormon doctrine
> >   DAVEH:  Where did you get that notion, Perry?  Either my memory is
much
> >worse than I expected, or you are making this stuff up.  And....I think
the
> >latter is more likely in this case.
> >
> >     when I DO NOT AND NEVER HAVE.
> >   DAVEH:  Nor have I ever said that I think you objected to me teaching
> >Mormonism, or anything remotely similar.   What have you been smokin',
> >Perry???   :-)
> >
> >       If you are seriously accusing me of such....dig out the quote that
> >supports your supposition.  Until then, please quit whining and
> >misconstruing what I've posted.   For a guy who has accused me of being
> >deceitful, and twisting what you've said....you seem to be creating a
> >mistruth in the way you've twisted this matter, Perry.  Go back and read
my
> >posts that you consider at fault and see if you didn't misinterpret what
I
> >posted.  If I am wrong...then post it for everybody to see....and I'll
> >apologize.  If you don't find any incriminating evidence, then do you
think
> >you might owe me an apology?  Or......should we just accept your silence
as
> >  an admission of wrongly accusing me of posting something I didn't say?
> >
> >     I only objected to your teaching (from my perspective) and then
> >denying it.
> >
> >       The only thing left to do is for you to acknowledge that you
> >understand that I never objected to your posting motmon doctrine
> >   DAVEH:   ???   Why should I have to acknowledge such, when I've never
> >posted anything that inferred that you objected to me posting Mormon
> >doctrine!
> >
> >     or else to provide evidence to the contrary, and that the only thing
I
> >ever objected to (from my perspective) was your denial of your teaching
> >mormon doctrine.
> >
> >   DAVEH:   And for that, you called me deceitful, did you not?
> >
> >
> >     Perry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >       From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >       Reply-To: [email protected]
> >       To: [email protected]
> >       Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic
> >Method of Teac
> >       Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:31:30 -0700
> >
> >       Dave,
> >
> >         I respect your position, and I beleive that we may have settled
> >our first point of contention.
> >
> >         While you may not consider some of your responses to be teaching
> >mormonism, I most whole-heartedly believe that some of it is.
> >
> >         When you answer questions that are asked, and even when you give
> >mormon references to support it, I do not think of that as "teaching" per
> >se. However, when you ask a Christian what he/she believes, and he/she
> >tells you, and THEN you counter and rebut it with mormon doctrine and
> >references, which you have done in the past, then you ARE teaching mormon
> >doctrine, no marter how subtlekly you do it.
> >
> >         So, I can live with that fact that you DO NOT consider that
> >teaching, which allows you to say that you are NOT teaching mormon
> >doctrine, but I will adhere to my belief that you ARE teaching mormon
> >doctrine when you do that.
> >
> >       I will set out to resolve our second point of contention in my
next
> >post.
> >
> >       Perry
> >
> >
> >         From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >         Reply-To: [email protected]
> >         To: [email protected]
> >         Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave
uses
> >Socratic Method of Teac
> >         Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:07:02 -0700
> >
> >         DAVEH:  If you want to define teaching as responding to
questions
> >about my beliefs, then you might have a point, Perry.  I view it a bit
> >differently though.  To be a teacher, one needs students.  For the most
> >part, I don't view TTers as being students wanting to learn.  Witness
> >Debbie's comments today....
> >
> >            From my LDS perspective, Teachers are to teach the gospel by
> >using the Word of God.   As you know, for the most part....I have
refrained
> >from posting latter-day passages on TT, excepting in specific cases when
> >asked to do so or it was appropriate for the discussion.  As a courtesy
to
> >TTers, I've tried to focus my discussions within the confines of the
> >Bible.....which in effect composes less than half of what I believe to be
> >Canon of Scripture.   Can I teach Mormonism while ignoring much of what
God
> >has said?  Not in my opinion.  If I wanted to teach Mormonism, you'd be
> >seeing a lot of references to our Standard Works instead of just Biblical
> >quotes.
> >
> >
> >
> >         Charles Perry Locke wrote:
> >
> >
> >           Dave, do you sometimes teach mormon doctrine on TT?
> >
> >
> >             From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >             Pery wrote: Are you on TT to teach mormon doctrine?
> >
> >             DAVEH:  No, Perry....as I've explained before, that was not
> >what motivated me to join TT, nor is it the reason I remain.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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