tERRY -- YOU ARE NO MORE p.o.ED WITHT EH CHURCH TAHN i AM -- but you might rethink your comments in view of the following:
Do not forsake the assembling of yourselves together -- encouraging one another to love and good works. Heb 10:25
...... breaking bread from house to house, they were taking their meals together with gladness and sincerity of hear. acts 2:46
We are to share in the worship of song -- a group thing. Eph 5:18-20
Speaking the truth in love, we are to grow upin all aspects into Him ....the whole body (read:church) being fitted and held together .... for the building up of itself (the church) in love Eph 4:15,16.
I could go on, but you know these scriptures better than I. If for no other reason, "ye who are spiritual help those who are weak" can be a reason to attend. We (my wife and I ) have our times when we do not attend ---- but we are always benefitted insome when we are there.
After all, "church" was God's big idea !!!!!!!!!!
JD
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From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>From here, his point seems to be that you do not need a community to worship, or a building, or a pastor/priest. Job, by the way, is just one of many examples of this.
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And your point -- that we must shave our heads, worship flat on the ground while tearing our clothing? ??????????????JD
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JOB And there was a day when his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house: And there came a messenger unto Job, and said, The oxen were plowing, and the asses feeding beside them: And the Sabeans fell upon them, and took them away; yea, they have slain the servants with the edge of the sword; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The fire of God is fallen from heaven, and hath burned up the sheep, and the servants, and consumed them; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The Chaldeans made out three bands, and fell upon the camels, and have carried them away, yea, and slain the servants with the edge of the sword; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, Thy sons and thy daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother's house: And, behold, there came a grea t wind from the wilderness, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.Then Job arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down upon the ground, and worshipped,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Good comments. My wife and I do not look to songs for didache -- rather we score high a service that allows us to praise God and give Him His righteous due. Perhaps reflective of how we approach the Faith in total.JD
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> It plays a very important part in > the discipline of spiritual growth. Amen. I realized recently that the worship songs I sing have taught me a sort of spiritual jealousy, where I wanted to mean those songs from my heart when I sang them. This one song had a line "You can offer her anything her affections are all for Him only," that showed me how I should desire my God. Though I wouldn't rate it over preaching and teaching, as quoted in Lance's post, I do love worship! Blessings! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Worship shapes our spirituality > "...our spirituality is usually shaped more by the > experience of communal worship than it is by > preaching and teaching....the way we think about God > and relate to God is influenced enormously by our > experience of God in communal worship..Songs are > especially formative. We are far more likely to find > ourselves humming something we sang in church when > we go home than we are to find ourselves meditating > on a phrase in the sermon..(not one of yours, of > course)..Christian philosopher and scientist Michael > Polanyi spoke of knowledge that we simply absorb by > a kind of 'osmosis' without even realizing that we > have done so. This is what he refers to as 'tacit > knowledge' Most Christians simply imbibe a theology > through the way that they worship. > .theology springs from right worship but theology > also, in turn, guides and ensures right > worship.There is a circular relationship between the > two as healthy worship and theology support each > other....how theology can guide the kind of worship > that in turn shapes people spirituality. > > > How very true, for my wife and I, at least. Our > "church of choice" is Valley Christian Center in > Fresno. It is a 2000 member congregation with, > perhaps, the best comtemporary worship service in > the area. What Polanyi speaks of in the above > quote is, perhaps, the same as that referenced by > Paul in Eph. 5:18-20. There, spirit filling is an > experience received on any occasion the community of > saints gather togather in the sharing of song and > spiritual hymns. It plays a very important part in > the discipline of spiritual growth. Too much > attention to the negatives expressed by some saints > (including ourselves) often counters the joy and > peace derived from these times of worhsip. > > Thanks for the words > > JD > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
