Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

[Blainerb473]

Perry, how can you speak with any authority about what I feel or what other LDS feel, subjectivity being what it is?  You take a heavy position, presuming to speak for others.  All else aside, however, how do you account for JS's fire of the first vision that did not consume being so similar to the burning bush of Moses that burned yet was not consumed?  And how do you account for that same fire being present at the Kirtland Temple's dedication?  Hundreds witnessed it.  BTW, you asked once, "How do you know I have never been in a Mormon temple?"  Would you please explain that question?  Are you a former Mormon?   In a message dated 6/6/2005 10:36:57 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:    Whoa, Blaine. Is your "witness of the spirit" that subjective heartburn feelings mormons say they get? AKA, the burning in the bazoom? Do you have any biblical references that this burning feeling is a valid witness? Could it instead possibly be the fires of hell being stoked by your resident demon?    Have you ever seen the Sheikinah yourself? According to E B Stennhouse, the editor of the Deseret news for some 25 years, in his 1875 book entitled "The Rocky Mountain Saints", he comments regarding the purported Shekinah in the Kirtland temple, paraphrasing, that the appearance of the spirit was more due to the imbibing of the spirit than the presence of the spirit. Perry