On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:55:51 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When we decide upon a "truth," finalize that in our mind and even institutionalize the concept, we close the door to further examination.jt: What do you mean "decide upon a truth" JD? Are you saying that God's Word is only part truth and that we need to decide upon what is and what is not? How does one "receive the engrafted Word which is able to save your soul" if we can not decide upon whether or not it is truth?With that door closed, we are shut off from amending our point of view. We stop growing and declare to all who will listen, "I have arrived by the grace of God, of course."jt: Growth comes when we obey from the heart, not by amending our POV because if we are not in agreement with God to begin with we are not going anywhere.On the occasion that we institutionalize the matter, we close the door for re-examination to all others -- a kind of excathedra statement. The evangelical church has done this with her doctrine of "inspiration." It has so formalized the teaching as to make it even dangerous to openingly disuss other possiblities to "verbal and plenary."jt: I don't know what you mean by "verbal and plenary" but the fact that "godly men were moved by the Holy Spirit to write scripture and the fact that all scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" is just that (fact) - so what's wrong with that?A disciple, new to the faith of the Evangelicals, must quickly learn what can be questioned and what cannot if he/she is to remain within the fellowship. Perhaps this is true in the high church as well -- I do not know.jt: Hey! I've always felt free to question - what's to stop them? You don't get any answers if you don't ask questions. jt
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JD Paul is surely NOT against knowing but knowing that is finalSo you say.Then I can never really know if what you are saying even now is true.Why are you always looking to talk people out of knowing the truth?Do you want them to end up like you, questioning everything?Or so you can then become the one (the authority) to point them in to the way right behind you?Prov 22 That I might make thee know the certainty of the words of truth; that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them that send unto theeMaybe that is why you struggle with addictions.JN 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:It has occurred to me that if we speak and write with the view in mind that we at the beginning of another day of learning, our hearts and minds will be more open to what God has instore. Perhaps our doctrinal statements should not be "as if written n stone.' But reflective of the growth that will begin again with the start of a new day.We would do less fighting and more growing.That is what I Cor 8:1-3 is saying, ---- is it not? Paul is surely NOT against knowing but knowing that is final, a closed systems of knowledge.Jd__________________________________________________
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