The former should have read 'equal attention and esteem'

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: June 09, 2005 04:37
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The meaning of respect


> Christine says:'an individual (I assume that she is describing her own
> stance herein) should not give equal attention and attention to all
> religions' Well then, Christine, don't! Behave as you choose to on a
> one-to-one basis or, on a one-to-many. Should you ever run for public
> office, I trust that you will both state and explicate your views on such
as
> this.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christine Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: June 08, 2005 16:41
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The meaning of respect
>
>
> > Lance wrote:
> > > Would you 'respect' your parents if they were
> > > representated by one of those
> > > groups named below?
> >
> > Your question redefines the argument. You brought up a
> > parent-child relationship when I was talking about a
> > person-person relationship. Another way to redefine
> > the argument is to discuss government. The government
> > should give equal attention and esteem to all
> > religions. Should the U.S. Government turn cartwheels
> > when handling the Koran, because the Koran tells them
> > to? I would say not. They are actually practicing
> > Islam when they put on the gloves and use only their
> > right hand to handle the Koran. This is a current
> > event that I beleive illustrates why unequal respect
> > is the wrong response to manipulation by violence or
> > by whining.
> >
> > Now, I would say that an individual should NOT give
> > equal attention and esteem to all religions. It would
> > be disasterous to their spiritual health. I refuse to
> > "respect" false practices and beleifs.
> >
> > And to answer your question, I definately would
> > respect my parents if they practiced a false religion.
> > I beleive there is a way to honor your father and
> > mother without compromising the Truth. In that
> > situation, one could be a powerful, humble witness for
> > Jesus. The Lord keeps His own. I have several friends
> > that converted to Christianity under households of a
> > different faith, and the Lord made it possible to both
> > follow Him and submit to their parents.
> >
> > But I suspect you still disagree. What's your point,
> > Lance? Do you think I should respect Islam or
> > Paganism? If this is true, how are you defining
> > "respect?"
> >
> > Blessings!
> >
> >
> > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Would you 'respect' your parents if they were
> > > representated by one of those
> > > groups named below?
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Christine Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: June 08, 2005 12:35
> > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH
> > >
> > >
> > > > Kevin wrote:
> > > > > A fig leaf will
> > > > > never cover your SIN!
> > > > > http://www.fairlds.org/apol/antis/200302.html
> > > >
> > > > Interesting how Bob links Mormonism to Islam,
> > > Judaism,
> > > > and Native American religion.
> > > >
> > > > Bob wrote:
> > > > [These other religous followers wear] Bits of
> > > cloth or
> > > > string that are physical reminders of God and his
> > > bond
> > > > with man. Sacred things, really. Prayer shawls or
> > > > beads, head coverings or aprons, medicine bags.
> > > Things
> > > > that are special to people, honorable and good
> > > things.
> > > >
> > > > He goes on to say that these things should be
> > > > respected. Now, I have a question. Do I have to
> > > > respect Islam or Native American paganism? And
> > > what
> > > > does it mean to "respect" another religion I know
> > > to
> > > > be false?
> > > >
> > > > I do beleive in loving those who do not know or
> > > even
> > > > hate my God, but respect their false religion? Is
> > > it
> > > > disrespectful to tell a homosexual that their
> > > actions
> > > > are destructive to their immortal soul? Of course
> > > not.
> > > > I don't and shouldn't respect the homosexual's
> > > actions
> > > > or beleifs. Those whining about respect want to
> > > > produce wimpy, mousey Christians who are too
> > > > "respectful" to speak the truth.
> > > >
> > > > Blessings!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Why frame it as an undewrwear debate?
> > > > > We hold the fig leaf aprons also. in the Temple
> > > > > Satan tells the LDS it is "a token of his
> > > > > priesthoods" and they put them on. A fig leaf
> > > will
> > > > > never cover your SIN!
> > > > > http://www.fairlds.org/apol/antis/200302.html
> > > > > I doubt that Bob was an eyewitness, but hey
> > > there is
> > > > > always poetic license to lie right?
> > > > >
> > > > > BOB lies or repeats a lie "One man, dressed in
> > > his
> > > > > church clothes, walked past in the crowd, saw
> > > the
> > > > > insults and desecrations, and grabbed the piece
> > > of
> > > > > clothing. To protect it. He was charged with
> > > robbery
> > > > > and taken to jail."
> > > > >
> > > > > I was an eyewitness Mr Basilio assualted from
> > > behind
> > > > > with a choke hold a guy half his size, while he
> > > was
> > > > > praying not "waving", to protect the sacred
> > > undies?
> > > > > If it is sacred surely LDS must assualt to
> > > protect
> > > > > it. MY Pastor does not assault people! What's
> > > with
> > > > > this HIGH PRIEST?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?sid=51767&nid=39&template=print
> > > > >
> > > > > Jose Basilio Charged with Robbery "This person
> > > was
> > > > > talking against the Church, saying bad things
> > > > > against the Prophet. He was showing a garment.
> > > It
> > > > > was a woman's garment. The ones we wear as
> > > members
> > > > > of the LDS Church. I'm a High Priest. I was
> > > angry. I
> > > > > tried to take it from him....He said I tried to
> > > hit
> > > > > him. But I did not hit him. I know martial arts
> > > and
> > > > > if I would have wanted to hurt him, I could have
> > > > > broken his arm or leg. He was just a youth and I
> > > am
> > > > > an adult. I had no intention to hurt him."
> > > > >
> > > > > "DWAYNE BAIRD/SALT LAKE CITY POLICE: IN DOING SO
> > > IT
> > > > > TOOK THE MAN TO THE GROUND, THE VICTIM AND IT
> > > > > DRAGGED HIM A COUPLE OF FEET AS THIS MAN RAN
> > > AWAY
> > > > > WITH HIS PROPERTY."
> > > > >
> > > > > Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > So, you weren't waving it around?   You were
> > > just
> > > > > walking around the streets holding someone's
> > > > > underwear in your hands?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jd
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > ========================================================================
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you saying that somewhere in Salt Lake City
> > > > > there is a Mormon with no skivvies?
> > > > >
> > > > > That is common down here where it is still
> > > ninety
> > > > > degrees at bed time, but SLC is a little cool
> > > for
> > > > > that.  Might freeze your equipment.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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