Judy wrote:
> If I am
> looking for light, I don't go scavenging around in
> the darkness

Hear hear!

--- Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The arts are not a "sore point" for me Lance; they
> are just alien to
> Truth, that's all.  Isn't the word hypocrite
> rooted in the idea of the mask worn by actors in the
> Greek tragedies?  So
> what is new under the sun?  If I am
> looking for light, I don't go scavenging around in
> the darkness but
> others can do as they choose.  jt
> 
> 
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:31:06 -0400 "Lance Muir"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> I do understand that the 'arts' is a sore point for
> you, Judy. 
> 
> From: Judy Taylor 
> 
> Lance, have you never pondered on the fact that
> Israel had no "arts"
> spatial or otherwise; and no entertainments or
> amusements. You would
> think God would have instructed the Levites to
> perform little skits and
> things to help them to understand what He was
> telling them wouldn't you? 
> How could He expect them to stand out there every
> 7yrs and just hear His
> Law read to them??
> 
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 06:36:37 -0400 "Lance Muir"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> No need for sorrow, Judy. Neither do I wish for you
> to trust MY judgment
> on anything. Be comfortable trusting your own
> judgment, under God.
> 
> From: Judy Taylor 
> Entertainment - or a-muse-ment;
> Sorry Lance - I don't trust your judgment regarding
> what God is
> comfortable with. jt
> 
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 06:00:46 -0400 "Lance Muir"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> God, IMO, is comfortable with you being a cultural
> luddite so relax on
> the 'entertainment' front.  
> From: Judy Taylor 
> Why of course Lance, these are the ppl who are
> epistemologically the same
> as you, so why not?
> On another note. Yesterday there was an interview
> with the late Ann
> Bancroft in our local paper and when asked to
> explain her ability to play
> such diverse roles, she told the Virginian-Pilot in
> 2001 "To be an
> actress, you have to be a liar" - so there you are. 
>  Why waste God's
> time watching and quoting 'good liars?'  
> 
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 04:26:09 -0400 "Lance Muir"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> Within the 'Three-Personed God'. It is 'mediated' to
> us by The Spirit'
> through The Scriptures. Humankind (women/men) must
> speak of that which we
> come to believe (Truth).We are not the final
> arbiters. What indeed is 'A
> Proper Confidence'? On TT, I saw it (epistemological
> humility) best
> exemplified in Bill, Caroline and Debbie. 
> From: Kevin Deegan 
> 
> We do not decide upon a Truth. You do, we don't.
> The Holy Spirit leads us into ALL Truth.
> Your doctrines are repugnant
> You are the personification of them and therefore
> have not come to a
> settling of what is and what aint!
> The Bible decides upon a Truth, we align ourselves
> to it. You align to
> your own ideas.
> You have no final authority, other than yourself. 
> Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the
> LORD pondereth the
> hearts.
> We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto
> ye do well that ye
> take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark
> place, until the day
> dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> When we decide upon a "truth,"  finalize that in our
> mind and even
> institutionalize the concept, we close the door to
> further examination.  
> With that door closed,  we are shut off from
> amending our point of view. 
> We stop growing and declare to all who will listen, 
> "I have arrived by
> the grace of God, of course."   On the occasion that
> we institutionalize
> the matter,  we close the door for re-examination to
> all others  --  a
> kind of excathedra statement.   The evangelical
> church has done this with
> her doctrine of "inspiration."   It has so
> formalized the teaching as to
> make it even dangerous to openingly disuss other
> possiblities to "verbal
> and plenary."   A disciple, new to the faith of the
> Evangelicals,  must
> quickly learn what can be questioned and what cannot
> if he/she is to
> remain within the fellowship.    Perhaps this is
> true in the high church
> as well  --  I do not know.   
> 
> JD
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:33:21 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha
> 
> 
> JD Paul is surely NOT against knowing but knowing
> that is final
> 
> So you say.
> Then I can never really know if what you are saying
> even now is true.
> 
> Why are you always looking to talk people out of
> knowing the truth?
> Do you want them to end up like you, questioning
> everything?
> Or so you can then become the one (the authority) to
> point them in to the
> way right behind you?
> Prov 22 That I might make thee know the certainty of
> the words of truth;
> that thou mightest answer the words of truth to them
> that send unto thee
> 
> Maybe that is why you struggle with addictions.
> JN 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth
> shall make you free.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It has occurred to me that if we speak and write
> with the view in mind
> that we at the beginning of another day of learning,
>  our hearts and
> minds will be more open to what God has instore. 
> Perhaps our doctrinal
> statements should not be "as if written n stone.'  
> But reflective of the
> growth that will begin again with the start of a new
> day.  
> 
> We would do less fighting and more growing.  
> 
> That is what I Cor 8:1-3 is saying,   ----   is it
> not?  Paul is surely
> NOT against knowing but knowing that is final, a
> closed systems of
> knowledge.   
> 
> Jd
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