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Will your honor instruct the witness to answer the
question as asked?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 21, 2005 07:50
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill
Cumorah
Yes we do you not whereof you speak.
We have a lawsuit in federal court over the Police Stealing one of our
banners which stated "ALLAH is NOT God" at the Detroit Muslim fest
Is the muslim equiv of Undie waving, 3 big pigs labeled ALLAH,
Mohammed, Bin Lyin?
Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
As Kevin has so often challenged me 'why not
answer the actual question(s) asked? Mind, I don't blame you as it's
perfectly understandable, Kevin. You don't (replicate in front of Mosques in
the USA that which you do at other locals throughout the USA and, utilizing
the same methodology) and, you won't. Do you not view Isam as an = if not
greater heresy throughout the land?
Answer: You are correct, Lance. I simply am not
called to do this.
FTR Q: Does it appear that anyone else IS
called to do this?
Answer: No, it would appear
not.HMMMMMM?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 21, 2005 07:28
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill
Cumorah
We do - you SIT
I looked at the photo-journal of the SPer's
trip. What a waste! A Muslim country? You live in one. As for both
trips; the one taken and the one projected, why not take care of
'business' at home? My question was:Why not replicate in front of 'your'
Mosques what you do at Mardi Gras, Super Bowl etc.? You won't and, for
good reason.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 20, 2005 18:24
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill
Cumorah
Want to come with us to a muslim country to
preach? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Now, there's a collection of pictures
I'd enjoy having a look at.Of course y'all do this with the same
frequency as the others, eh? Will you tell which Mosques, how many
and, with what frequency?
Do 'you' believe that Muhammed was
inspired to write the Koran by the same one who inspired the BOM
namely, Satan?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 20, 2005
14:33
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill
Cumorah
The plain answer is yes
I'm confident that you wouldn't be
INTENTIONALLY EVASIVE so, please answer the question as asked.
Employing the 'model' (placards, bullhorns etc.)provided for us
by DM & Kevin vis a vis the Super Bowl, Mardis Gras and,
outside the Temple in Salt Lake City, would they do the same
thing outside a mosque (a Muslim place of worship) and, if not
then, whey not?
Do revisit what kicked this
discussion off. There is a serious point to be made
here.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 20, 2005
06:56
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Hill Cumorah
I don't know about DavidM but I'm
sure Kevin and Ruben have encountered Muslims in their SP
travels. I figure it
would be tit for tat (with truth on
their side) since Muslims call everyone and everything Western
"the great Satan" My Scots friend tells me that in the UK the Muslims have taken over
and that now the Red Cross will not put anything Christian out
at Christmas for fear of offending
them. Her brother in Manchester England says he will not
give the Red Cross another cent because of it and he isn't even religious.
jt
I do not have a problem with
'exposure'. I don't think that that is Dave's point
though.
May I suggest that an equal. if
not greater, danger to believers lies within Islam.
Could you imagine David Miller or Kevin going to Mosques
and, utilizing bullhorns, villify the attendants by
addressing THEM as servants of Satan?
I would think it would be more
like Jeremiah (see Jer 13:1,2); this is obviously a one
time object lesson to
the part of Israel Jeremiah was
ministering to rather than a pattern of behavior for all
time. However, part of public proclamation of Truth
by nature involves exposing the lie
of the false gods which of
course will be offensive to those who worship them.
Why do you have such a problem
with this? jt
Elijah.
Can you give us a "for
instance" DaveH? jt
DAVEH:
As I understand your position (and please
correct me if I am misunderstanding your
position), many Christians (specifically you, in
this instance) believe that everything written
in the Bible is specifically applicable to
Christians today. So, if a prophet
of the Bible used a technique of mocking, that
means it is OK for you to do the same
thing. If a prophet of God in the Bible is
commanded to go preach on the streets, you
assume that instruction applies to you as
well....is that correct,
Kevin?
To me, that
isn't logical at all. Just as what he
compelled the prophets of the OT to do was not
necessarily applicable to the prophets of the
NT, what the Lord wants us to do today may or
may not be what he wants us to do today.
It seems to me that the Lord
over time has commanded various people to do
things that he may not have commanded at a
subsequent time or other
peoples. Hope that makes some
sense.....
Kevin Deegan wrote:
DAVEH: And because some of
the early prophets mocked with God's blessing,
you believe it is your right to do so as
well? Isn't that stretching logic a bit
beyond it's breaking
point?
NO
How so?
Kevin
Deegan wrote:
Yes, but where they "Contending for the
faith"? DAVEH: What do
you think they were disputi9ng if it wasn't
their perspecdtive of the faith? Don't you
think they were arguing the truth as they saw
it, perhaps in the same way it is done on TT
occassionally?
Please show me where God admonished Paul,
for his "much
contention" DAVEH: My
last post about admonishment was regarding the
bickering (if that's the proper word for it)
Christians who Paul admonished.
If you were an
apostle as was Paul and admonished me for
arguing about theology, I would pay heed.
But I don't think you've even claimed to be an
apostle, Kevin. (Am I wrong on
that?) >From my perspective you seem to
be one who is contributing to the
contention. Why do you think Paul's
admonishment not to contend (Titus 3:9) doesn't
apply to you? Isn't it just a matter of
perspective? If another TTer were to argue
against your understanding of whatever doctrine,
why do you think you would be in the right and
he would be in the wrong? Do you sincerely
believe you are right on all your points of
doctrine, or do you allow you may at times be
wrong?
Show me where Elijah was admonished in the
scriptures for MOCKING.
In fact right after Elijah Mocking the
prophets of Baal, God answered his
prayer. DAVEH: And
because some of the early prophets mocked with
God's blessing, you believe it is your right to
do so as well? Isn't that stretching logic
a bit beyond it's breaking point?
God Mocks
Prov 1:26
Because I have called, and ye
refused... But ye
have set at nought all my counsel, and would
none of my reproof: I also
will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when
your fear
comethDave Hansen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
DAVEH:
Were not a lot of early Christians in
contention, and admonished for it?
Kevin
Deegan wrote:
No read the scriptures. They were "IN God"
with MUCH Contention. Dave Hansen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
DAVEH:
Do you suppose that could have been one of
Paul's faults?
Kevin Deegan
wrote:
> By the way did you know that
Paul was VERY
CONTENTIOUS?
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