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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] liberal churches are dying (dead!)

 

Sorry, guys. I couldn't resist this.

 

>From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Reply-To: [email protected]

>To: [email protected]

>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] liberal churches are dying (dead!)

>Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT)

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>I am saying we were commanded to GO and sinful men will do whatever to be

>contrary to God.

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>So where are you in the "process" of salvation?

>20% saved yesterday and 21.5% today?

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>-----Original Message-----

>From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>To: [email protected]

>Sent: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:31:39 -0700 (PDT)

>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] liberal churches are dying (dead!)

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>How many others out there are somewhere in the process of being saved?   A

>bunch.

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>The church will die in this day and time if it cannot learn to draw the

>carnal and the worldly into its influence.

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>We were commanded to bring Jesus to the world not the world to Jesus  I see

>no difference whatsoever.  Are you saying it is wrong to bring the world to

>the feet of Jesus?  Jesus i s accused of fellowshipping with sinners and He

>defends this practice  -  he does not explain it away  (Matt 9:11ff)

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>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Not much different than what we find as typical in the First Church.   The

>condemnation that we are "saved" from is that which we bring into our own

>lives.   I believe that the creation process begun in the Garden was to be

>completed in each of us as the Spirit indwells, placing us into God's

>community and into the community of those being saved  -  all as a result

>of the foundational work He committed to on our behalf with His birth, life

>, death nd resurrection  (commonly called "incarnation")

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>We were all created in of the image of God  -  all of us.   None of us have

>arrived.  But our desired destiny  (image of God) has been clearly

>demonstrated in the biblical message and in the life of Christ.

>As long as the church does not compromise the message of hope and

>righteousness,  the presence of all them damned sinners is a good thing, 

>right?   We are encouraged with these words, "ye who are spiritual, help

>them who are weak."  That works best when they (the weak ones) are in the

>same room, same fellowship, hearing the same message of grace and

>righteousness.   The church will die in this day and time if it cannot

>learn to draw the carnal and the worldly into its influence.  And the

>church will rot on the vine if it cannot influence without the compromise

>of the Message.

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>JD

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>From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>To: [email protected]

>Sent: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 21:11:07 -0500

>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] liberal churches are dying (dead!)

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>Two reasons I can think of:   a praise-worship service that is contemporary

>and entertaining.

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>and (2)  a social aspect that is inclusive and tolerant.   Conservative

>churches that major in the preaching of "truth" and doctrinal correctness

>and hang with the formal and traditional praise service have a different

>time in today's market   ("market"  --  you know what I am talking about,

>right Terry?).

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>During the civil war era, the "liberal churches" were those who opposed

>slavery.

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>JD

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>I think seeker sensative is the term you are looking for.  In our

>neighborhood, racism, divorce and remarriage on unbiblical grounds,

>adultry, crooked business deals and membership in secret organizations are

>the norm for church members.  The only ones ever put out of the church are

>preachers who preach the truth.  That is not tolerated.  This is the Bible

>belt today.

>Terry

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