DAVEH:   Thanx for your answer, Bill.  The definition of salvation is one that interests me.  Though I have two definitions for salvation that I commonly use, I ultimately perceive it as one's entrance to heaven....that is when we are ultimately saved.   But, there are some TTers who are critical of me for changing the definition of salvation.  The problem I have though, is that I do not really understand how most Christians define salvation.  I know that they perceive it as being saved from sin....but just what does that mean if it doesn't mean entry to heaven?

    Glenn Tabor (an old TT moderator) used to discuss this with me in length.   He kept explaining that salvation is a past, present and future event.   Yet as I read the Bible, I see the promise of salvation being in the past and present, and actual salvation occurs when we endure to the end.  (That is simplifying it immensely, because the resurrection is a form of salvation that has happened in the past.)    And......until one resides in heaven, is one truly saved.....or does he just have the promise of salvation?

    If you wish to discuss this further, I'd enjoy chatting with you about it.   I'll change the subject line in case you wish to do so.

Bill Taylor wrote:
Hi Dave,
 
We would probably have to go into some further detail as to what this word "salvation" means to us before my answer can suffice -- or perhaps even be understood (and that is up to you) -- but the short answer is this: "yes, the only requirement for entrance to heaven" is salvation -- with one caveat: in Jesus Christ.
 
I believe that at the point in which death entered the world, salvation was necessary in order to receive eternal life. Anyone who is mortal and has died or will die on this earth must necessarily be resurrected (which is the pivotal aspect in my view of "salvation"; i.e., death being swallowed up in victory) in order to live forever. In this view, then, salvation is that which stands between death and an eternal life in "heaven."
 
Bill
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Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief

DAVEH:   Do you believe salvation is the only requirement for entrance to heaven, Bill?   (BTW....I would be most interested to hear the thoughts of other TTers on this as well.)

Bill Taylor wrote:

 
A very wise friend of mine is keen on opining that there will be many Christians who hold grossly heretical beliefs, who upon their passing will nevertheless find themselves securely in heaven. I agree with him: if entrance into heaven is predicated upon right and only right thinking, then I suppose heaven will be a mighty lonely place.
 
Bill



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