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"...we can disagree without quarrelling,
remembering Chesterton's observation that the problem with a quarrel is that it
spoils an argument. And, as in all such disagreements, we do well to keep in
mind the rule of Richard Baxter (famously reiterated by John XXIII), 'In
necessary things, unity; in doubtful things, liberty; in all things, charity."
To which one need only add this necessary thing: all our puzzling, disputing,
and speculating must finally give way to the most pure act of faith, which is
doxology. So it was with St. Paul [...] at the end of Romans 11, and so it must
be with us. At the end of all our trying to understand, we join in
declaring:
'For God has consigned all to disobedience, that He
may have mercy upon all. O the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of
God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways! "For who
has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been his counsellor?" "Or who has
given a gift to him that he might be repaid?" For from him and through him and
to him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen.'" --Tim
Perry
Debbie
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 11:05
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A apologetic for
the eternal sonship of Chr JD
Thank you for your response. Obviously, we are miles apart on
this and the distance seems to be increasing. I believe, however, that
God can work through either understanding That is not to say
that there is more than one truth on a subject. Rather, it
is to declare our God as sovereign in essence, power and
influence. I guess this comes down to what Debbie has been
discussing with DAveH. Is God bigger than our perceptions of Him
and His doctrine?
JD -----Original Message----- From: David Miller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]Sent: Mon, 27
Jun 2005 09:40:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A apologetic for the
eternal sonship of Chr JD
John wrote:
> I have been working on this since 6:00 am
> and it is nearly 3:00 !! Yikes !!!!.
LOL. Studying is fun, isn't it!
Nice piece, John. I don't think I disagreed with much of anything in it. I
just think it argued more for the Divinity of Christ rather than the idea of
eternal sonship.
Both you and Bill seem to hammer two ideas in discussing this topic:
1) Jesus is the eternal God
2) Jesus has a relationship in the Godhead best understood by us as a Father
/ Son relationship.
I do not disagree with either of these concepts. Rather, I affirm them both
as being true. My primary concern with this subject has to do with how we
interpret Scripture. What does the Scripture mean when it says, "this day I
have begotten you." The Holy Ghost has a specific message here. In the
earlier discussion, I was not too sure about it, but as the discussion
progressed, I think Judy made her case very well. Adam Clark also makes
some good points about it. The Biblical passage is referring to his
incarnation when he became son of man, son of David, son of God.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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