Re: [TruthTalk] ** Moderator commant **

Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:08:59 -0700

If hubby is anything like wife  -  I doubt "help" would be the result. 
 
Jd 
 
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Oh well! Beauty like holiness must be in the eye of the beholder; and for you sanctification is not an issue yet,
you might ought to make an appt with Linda's husband JD.  jt
 
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:47:05 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I see you no differently than I see other sinners, Judy.  I would think I would see a difference if what you say were true.    The fact is this:  grace is all about the atonement for sin  -  a redemption that is immediate AND one of process.  When you say that grace is God's power to sinlessness  -- what scripture did you  have in mind? 
 
Jd
 

From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
Grace does not cover sin JD; grace is the dunamis or power coming out of the resurrection that
causes us to overcome sin in our lives.  jt
 
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:50:04 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"I simply see JD  ......" is not the whole Linda Shields story concerning me.  Not at all.  Previous post have made that more than clear. 
 
More than that, John does believe that we are all "God-followers and sinners at the same time."  Have I ever beaten around the bush about this truth?   Here is the free kicker to this teaching  -   the longer I remain on TT, the more convinced I am of that truth. 
 
The grace of God is a wonderful thing.  I do not judge others in their sin because I am in the  same boat.  But it does appear to me that some are not in the boat  -  they content themselves with using life-preservers and swimming along side.   No matter    ---   all help comes from the Father of Lights. 
 
JD
 
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Your response is more of an indication of such, Lance.  I simply see JD constantly denigrating Samson in a very unusual manner as an example of it being acceptable to be a God-follower and a sinner at the same time.  It?s a definite pattern.  See this quote from just a few minutes ago:
 
Yes, Judy, we have been over this befroe.   And nowhere in any Bible I have in my collectional is there a statemnt of any kind that mildly suggests that Samson repented of his womanizing ways..... not a hint.  At the same time  --  he acknowledges the God of his fathers and relies on Him in the only ways he (Samson) can................. spiritually speaking,  a very immature child of God, but a believers.   
JD 
 
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IMO your repeated accusations of JD are an indication of a 'root of bitterness'1 Why are you so angry at JD that you feel the need to pepper him with such a tone as this?
 
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IMO Samson is just JD?s favorite excuse to excuse his own sins. (It doesn?t work.) Izzy
 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor
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JD we've been over and over and over and over this; apparently you can't learn and so
it looks like Samson will forever be a reprobate in your eyes.  jt
 
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:22:05 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And Samson's repentance is recorded where???? JD 

From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bill Taylor wrote:
> According to your criterion, Izzy, what difference should
> it make: "I believe the fact that he was an adulterer totally
> discredits his credentials as a prophet of god"?
 
I think the unspoken assumption here is that unlike King David, Joseph Smith
never repented of his adultery, but rather gave prophecies which justified
it and pronounced curses upon his original wife Emma if she did not accept
his other women.  Jesus taught us to spot false prophets by their fruit.  We
don't gather grapes from thistles, and so we expect godly character from
true prophets and ungodly character from false prophets.
 
Note that Balaam was a false prophet not because he failed to speak for
Yahweh, nor because he spoke falsely in his name, but because he had a
covetous heart.
 
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
 
 
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