DAVEH:   I've discussed how I view salvation before, Bishop.  But it was prior to your arrival.

    Prior to the Lord's resurrection, all men were stuck (so to speak) in a realm of existing only as a spirit.  From my LDS perspective, this was prevented eternal progression. By virtue of the Lord's grace, his resurrection was extended to all mortals.  It was a free gift that requires nothing of us, other than being born into mortality.  This is what I consider a physical salvation.  Naturally, this excludes any of the spirits who followed Satan in the pre-mortal existence as they were ejected from heaven from inheriting this important factor of salvation.

    As I see it, in a spiritual sense, one is not totally saved until such time as they enter heaven.  I believe that heaven is a place where neither sin nor sinners will be found, yet virtually all (except for Jesus) mortals are separated from God by their sins.  While the sacrifice and atonement of the Lord also made overcoming those sins possible, there are certain things that we must do to avail ourselves of his saving grace in that respect.   I think you would probably agree that faith and repentance are two such requirements.  I would add baptism of water and the spirit as well.  And, as the Lord said....those who will be saved are those who endure to the end.  I believe that at the time of the judgment, we will be judged according to the depth and breadth of how fully (if that is the right word) we accept the Lord, and will subsequently be assigned our place in heaven depending on that judgment.

    While my above explanation hardly covers the bare minimal details, I think it will give you the basic idea of how I view salvation in both a physical and spiritual sense.

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Yes, they were addressed to DM  --  but now that you are here,  I wouldn't mind your answer.   However  --  I do not want to interrupt your discussion with the Canadian Professor.  
 
JD 
 
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From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 23:11:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

DAVEH:   May I assume you are addressing DM???

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 DAvid
 
How is one saved and what do you mean with the use of that term  "saved?" 
 
Is there a point in time when one is given the ability (from God) to resist all manner of sin? 
 
You once said that the cross only forgives past sins.   Is that your opinion this day? 
 
John
 
 

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