How much do you give?
What are you going to do about those in africa?
I am interested as you get on your bully pulpit speaking about the heart wrenching condition of christians in Africa, of which condition you do NOTHING. Seems hypocritical to me.
That is what someone does who is looking to fleece the pockets of his audience. What is your angle?
You speak on the absolute neccessity of making disciples yet you have NONE of your own!
 
And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.
 
 
AS far as your misdirecting the heat away from yourself, claim....
"I do thus", is another of your mischaracterisations.
You do not have a clue "what I do" since I don't post it here.
Seems that just posting an Itinerary is convicting to you!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are a child in Christ when it comes to this sort of thing.   You itch at the opportunity to put your numbers up against mine or Lance.     It is a continuing theme of yours.   "How many"  "How much"  " I do thus and so."  Pardon me for the criticism but you might expect such in view of Christ's teaching about praying in public verses praying in a closet.     
 
There is a difference between working for the Lord  and doing busy work for the Lord. 
JD 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:21:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All believers are ONE IN CHRIST

It's not a brag, it's just your guilty conscience telling you DO SOMETHING!
ANYTHING!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just asking --  didn't need the brag.
 
Jd 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:47:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All believers are ONE IN CHRIST

Working - 40 hours and then some with 7X24X365 on call
Preaching - in the last week have preached in Columbus OH, NYC, Rochester, Olcott NY and numerous times in Buffalo
This weekend JW district convention, Corn Hill Arts fest, Mormon Hill Cumorah Pag 
Living - Girls baseball games It is palyoof time!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Working?? 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:33:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All believers are ONE IN CHRIST

I do not have time right now.

David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As I suspected, Kevin, you are misapprehending the issue here.  The issue here was not someone HAVING a Bible.  The issue was translating the Scriptures without the authority of the church.  I do not agree with what the RCC did to Wycliffe, Tyndale, and others, but when we represent this as the RCC not wanting people to have a Bible, we misrepresent them.  Such misrepresentation, whether intentional or not, discredits our testimony.  I don't know of one person who was burned at the stake for having a Bible.  Check again and tell me if you find one.  If you do, I will change my mind (contrary to how some have characterized me on this list).
 
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All believers are ONE IN CHRIST

?As his Bible aroused the English conscience, the pope felt a chill; he heard unearthly sounds rattle through the empty caverns of his soul, and he mistook Wickliff?s bones for his Bible. The moldering skeleton of the sleeping translator polluted the consecrated ground where it slept. The Council of Constance condemned his Bible and his bones to be burnt together? (Armitage, A History of the Baptists, I, p. 315).
 
To the RCC:
?You say it is heresy to speak of the Holy Scriptures in English. You call me a heretic because I have translated the Bible into the common tongue of the people. Do you know whom you blaspheme? Did not the Holy Ghost give the Word of God at first in the mother-tongue of the nations to whom it was addressed? Why do you speak against the Holy Ghost? You say that the Church of God is in danger from this book. How can that be? Is it not from the Bible only that we learn that God has set up such a society as a Church on the earth? Is it not the Bible that gives all her authority to the Church? Is it not from the Bible that we learn who is the Builder and Sovereign of the Church, what are the laws by which she is to be governed, and the rights and privileges of her members? Without the Bible, what charter has the Church to show for all these? It is you who place the Church in jeopardy by hiding the Divine warrant, the missive royal of her King, for the authority she wields and the faith she enjoins? (Fountain, John Wycliffe, pp. 45-47).
Wycliffe also had copies of the hand-written Scriptures produced and distributed not only in England but also abroad in Europe. That these multiplied widely is evident from the record that still exists of the many copies that were confiscated by the authorities: ?By reference to the Bishop?s Registers it will appear that these little books were numerous, as they are often specified as being found upon the persons of those accused. Sometimes the Gospels are spoken of either separately, or together; or it is the book of Acts, or the Epistle of James, or the Apocalypse that is specified. It appears also from these Registers, that many of those who possessed these little volumes were either servants or tradesmen? (Condit, History of the English Bible, p. 75).

David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin wrote:
> Who else burns people for having a BIBLE?
 
Huh?  I think you are mischaracterizing the truth now.  Can you name for me one person who was burned for HAVING a Bible?
 
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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