No. --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I could just let it go Christine but, I'd be doing a > disservice to you and > to the > whole Miller family. I 'read' something other than > the 'assurance' of 1Th > 1:5 when I read both you and your Dad. IMO, some of > what I 'hear' comes from > the Lord and some from your redeemed/fallen nature. > There's much of the > 'old' Christine & David alive, well and, posting on > TT. Wouldn't you agree? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: July 08, 2005 15:49 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Works and the Book of James > > > > 1Th 1:5 For our gospel came not unto you in word > > only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, > and in > > much ASSURANCE; as ye know what manner of men we > were > > among you for your sake. > > > > > > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Doncha just luv it when people communicate with > such > > > CERTAINTY? Damn! Reminds me of...well....ME! (I > > > refer to Christine & Kevin) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Kevin Deegan > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: July 08, 2005 14:50 > > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Works and the Book of > > > James > > > > > > > > > Be ye DOERS and NOT HEARERS only deceiving > your > > > own selves > > > Same goes for TALKERS only > > > > > > > > > > > > Christine Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Lance, of course James does NOT disagree > with > > > Paul. The difference is, Paul teaches that > Abraham's > > > faith is counted for righteousness, while James > > > actually tells us what faith is. Works without > faith > > > will lead you to hell (that's Paul) and James > says > > > that true faith will produce works. People were > > > getting it all out of order. > > > > > > Mat 7:26 And every one that heareth these > > > sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be > > > likened unto a foolish man, which built his > house > > > upon the sand: > > > > > > Mat 7:27 And the rain descended, and the > floods > > > came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that > house; > > > and it fell: and great was the fall of it. > > > > > > > > > Blessings > > > > > > Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > No, Judy. YOUR problem is this 'God > inspires > > > MY reading of Scripture thing'. However, you are > in > > > good company as Kevin, Linda and, David have the > > > same 'problem'. > > > > > > As an aside: it just might be that James > does > > > disagree with Paul. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Judy Taylor > > > To: [email protected] > > > Cc: [email protected] > > > Sent: July 08, 2005 09:08 > > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Works and the > Book > > > of James > > > > > > > > > > > > What for JD? Paul does not contradict > James > > > and James is not contradicting Paul. The > > > contradiction is in your > > > wide sweeping comprehension of this > > > "incarnational" thing which is a doctrine of men > > > rather than the Word > > > of God. Just because the CofC misused > God's > > > Word does not mean we should throw out the parts > > > they used > > > to wound. Separate from them but hold > fast > > > to God's truth. > > > > > > On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:01:37 -0400 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > I'm still waiting !! Jd > > > > > > From: Judy Taylor > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > If all one is holding to is dead > doctrine > > > from some theologian - did they have salvation > to > > > begin with? One cannot > > > lose what they never had to begin > with. > > > Jesus' Words are life giving - they will quicken > > > your mortal body. jt > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > You really do not have the > foggiest as > > > to what James is talking about in his letter, do > > > you? Prove me wrong !! Tell me, what are the > > > works of justification in the book of James? > At > > > what point are we saved -- at the point of faith > or > > > at the point of works? If we stop "working" do > we > > > suddenly lose our salvation? What is the > > > definition of "works" in James? Why does > James > > > NOT contradict Paul's statement in Romans 4 that > we > > > are saved by faith apart from works of law?" > > > > > > I'm waiting !!!! JD > > > > > > > > > From: Judy Taylor > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > James wrote it (James 2:14-20) - > I'm > > > agreeing with the Word of God > > > and yes I don't see much grace in > dead > > > faith - do you Kevin? judyt > > > > > > On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:56:27 -0700 > > > (PDT) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > writes: > > > Faith w/o works is Dead.... > > > Are you saying it is a DEAD > FAITH? > > > > > > Judy Taylor > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > It's JD's way of saying that > you > > > are a works/salvationist rather than what he > calls > > > grace > > > But no worries Christine - you > > > have lots of good company :) We all know that > faith > > > or > > > what some call grace without > works > > > (corresponding actions) is DEAD. judyt > > > > > > On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 18:52:31 > -0700 > > > (PDT) Christine Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > writes: > > > JD wrote: > > > Christine, you are an > excellent > > > proponent of will worship. > > > > > > Thanks! What does that mean? > > > > > > > > > Blessings > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
