David Miller wrote: >> I rest my case, John. My assumption was >> correct. I had not cast any aspersions toward >> Bill. Bill is quite knowledgeable, but he does >> not pretend to understand the intended meaning >> of these passages as well as Jesus does.
John wrote: > And that, dear sir, was not your point !!!!!! > You often forget that I know how to read. Your response here does not add to the discussion. It is simply another ad hominem remark. I sometimes do wonder if you are able to read. You skipped over the PCA comment by Judy, and then railed at me for assuming that you would know that she attended a PCA church. You completely miss more than 50% of the content of most my posts. But now you have gotten this discussion off track again. Perhaps I should not even answer this post, but I'm going to try at least once more before giving up on you. I had made the point in my previous post that should Jesus in the flesh mentor a newly born again person like Vladimir every day for two months on the passages mentioned, then he would have a better grasp of the intended meaning of the Holy Ghost than another person. You had perceived correctly an unspoken assumption of mine that this other person had not already benefited from this very same instruction. You said that I should give this other person more credit than this. So, I asked this other person whether or not his present understanding would benefit if Jesus sat down with him. His answer was that Jesus would say something like, "Have we been together so long and you still do not understand?" Therefore, he confirmed my original assumption. You are right about this not being my original point, but you challenged my original point by questioning an assumption I made when I offered my own vote as to who might better understand. Therefore, I examined the validity of my assumption and found that your criticism was without merit. Now we can get back to the original point if you are interested. Lance has expressed that he is not interested. The original point concerns how the Holy Spirit reveals truth to us. A stepping stone to that understanding is first establishing our perspective about the benefit of personal instruction from Jesus. Another stepping stone is establishing whether or not maturity is necessary for understanding the intent of Scripture. Also, must one apply himself to diligent study for years, perhaps at a university, in order to understand the intent of Scripture? My answer, of course, is no. God's purpose, in fact, is to confound the wisdom of the mighty. Those who apply themselves to years of study are actually more likely to miss the intended meaning of Scritpure! This statement may shock the educated on this list, but this is my perspective. We may never be able to fully explore these questions because interest is lacking among the participants here. Lance has asked to drop the subject, and so we will do unless someone else expresses and interest in pursuing it. There is a whole lot more to be said on this subject, some very thrilling concepts of truth, but it is only for those who have ears to hear. Peace be with you. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.

