proving my point
 
 
 
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From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:09:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting the Scriptures for living (not for 'A' living)

Hoping that your children will grab a Bible off the shelf  --  give the
command "bring me a book."  Compare that to "bring me a Bible."   When
I use the word,   I mean to imply the book we call the Bible.   

Well that is easy, just ask for THE Book!
There are many Books but just one is THE Book.


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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> So you don?t believe that husbands are to wash their wives with the
> reading of God?s Word, just as Christ does the Church?   There is
> nothing in scripture that even hints at such a thing.  In fact,  I
> have never even heard of such a commanded practice !!!   
>  
> And you don?t believe that the Holy Spirit indwells the words of God,
> whether written or spoken?  I have no idea what that might mean?  I
> do believe God works His will when the word is spoken or read.
>  
> Do you believe that the Bible contains these ?divine utterances? that
> you reference?   Yes.  But "divine utterances" occur in other
> settings, as well   --  the preaching of the gospel, fellowship in
> song, prayer  (the making utterances on our behalf), confession, with
> the utterance "be healed" as the result and so on.  
>  
>  As we have discussed before, ?Bible? is just a word for The Book, so
> what does your last sentence have to do with anything? "Bible" is not
> just another word for "book."   Hoping that your children will grab a
> Bible off the shelf  --  give the command "bring me a book."  
> Compare that to "bring me a Bible."   When I use the word,   I mean
> to imply the book we call the Bible.   
>  
>  
> JD
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:48:09 -0500
> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting
> the Scriptures for living (not for 'A' living)
> 
> 
> So you don?t believe that husbands are to wash their wives with the
> reading of God?s Word, just as Christ does the Church?  And you don?t
> believe that the Holy Spirit indwells the words of God, whether
> written or spoken?  Do you believe that the Bible contains these
> ?divine utterances? that you reference? As we have discussed before,
> ?Bible? is just a word for The Book, so what does your last sentence
> have to do with anything?  izzy
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 1:08 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting
> the Scriptures for living (not for 'A' living)
>  
> After reading two of the most recent posts,  I must add this thought:
>  there is no amount of conjecture that will allow the Bible and the
> Spirit to be the same thing or a substitute of the other  (esp the
> Bible for the Spirit).  If we are not careful here, we will be
> substituting the Spirit with the Bible, putting the Bible in the
> place of the Spirit and that is the very definition of idolatry.    
>  
> the point that Gary made concerning "the washing of the word" is
> right on.   A reading of the text will verify his conclusion  --  it
> is, in deed, Christ cleansing the church with  (divine) utterances.  
> 
>  
> I find no reference to the Bible as we know it today within the pages
> of scripture.     I can anticipate the rebuttal  --  but I will wait
> upon you all.  
>  
> Jd
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 05:53:59 -0400
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting
> the Scriptures for living (not for 'A' living)
> Personally,  I have grown accustomed to contemporary gospel music, so
> much so, that "churches of choice" for my wife and myself are those
> which spend 20 to 30 minutes in "contemporary" worship and praise 
> ............................  it is evident to me, that such is
> possible, in part, because of men like Larry Norman.   Thanks G for
> this referenced article.   Not every biographical sketch is, at the
> same time, a tribute to the subject.   But, such IS the case in this
> case.  Thanks again
>  
> JD 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:23:11 -0600
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On playing chess & On reading/interpreting
> the Scriptures for living (not for 'A' living)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Norman
>  
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:18:16 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> http://users.ev1.net/%7Ebotheja/alive_and_kicking.htm
>  
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:30:26 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> '..if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.'
>  
> --
>  
> "..mercy me, mercy me
> i am free
> i can see
> now i'm who i want to be
>  
> mercy me, mercy me, mercy me..
>  
> ..why does it take so long 
> to learn to stand and be strong?
>  
> mercy me, mercy me, mercy me.."
>  
> http://www.larrynorman.com/prayer.html
>  
>  
> 


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