Or biggest fibs? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
You're so cute when you get angry! 'One of the greatest deceptions'? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: July 18, 2005 16:21 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14 > Lance wrote: >> As to the supposed contradiction: It has to do with >> the expression 'believes in'. None of us, as JD has >> said, relies on those teachings as finally determinative >> for our 'faith' in God through Christ. > > When a concept seems to be contrary to a favorite teaching, it is not > given > the time of day. I would say that this makes the teaching determinative > for > your faith, wouldn't you? > > For example, if I teach holiness, JD can't hear it because it cuts across > the doctrines of men concerning grace which he believes in. > > Concerning his statement that not one person on TruthTalk believes in the > "doctrines of men," JD has written: > "I speak of personal motivation and, no, I do not allow a difference of > opinion on this issue. I have been led by the Spirit into this statement > and cannot, therefore, be wrong." > > It seems to me then that it would be fruitless for me to argue that a > lurking atheist might possibly believe a doctrine of man. JD would > embrace > his statement as authoritative and determinative and not accept any > further > arguments to the contrary. > > So, no, I'm not sure I get your point. Perhaps it is a matter of degree > that > you wish to argue. It just seems to me that any of us who allow any > doctrine to shape our acceptance or rejection of Scripture are falling > into > the problem that Jesus warned us about. > > Another example: JD strongly believes that a person should have > hermeneutic > principles by which to interpret Scripture. Furthermore, one of his > hermeneutics is to read passages only in very narrow and specific contexts > and not to interpret anything beyond that. From my perspective, that is > very legalistic, but from his perspective, it is proper exegesis. > Nevertheless, it gives him a convenient way in which to dismiss Scripture > that might point him to a truth that he is blind about. > > Another hermeneutic he has is the silence of Scripture. He employs this > often, not willing to hear that which is not specifically taught and > commanded in Scripture. This is another legalistic trend, but again, he > does not recognize it as such. > > So you say that none of you "believe in" any doctrine of men, but clearly > such doctrines of men shape and fashion everything about you, how the > Scriptures are studied, what you do with street preachers and prophets, > what > you do with claims of revelation, how you walk in holiness, etc. It could > very well be that this idea that nobody on TruthTalk believes in the > doctrines of men is one of the greatest deceptions ever posted on > TruthTalk! > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
