JD sezs even in matters of spiritual importance.

What portions of the TRUTH are negotiable?
What portion of TRUTH is of less importance?
Is some TRUTH important and some not so important?

--- Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:23:54 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Not "necessarily."  "areas I do not agree with him are minimal," 
> "Some things I put on the shelf."  "on spiritual issues I MAINLY have
an inner Amen."     Wow, what a statement of endorsement!  Kinda,
mostly, sorta, not necessarily, mainly.    Don't you see, Judy Taylor
my friend and sister, that your honesty will not let you say what you
WANT to say !!?? 
>  
> 
> JD I am saying exactly what I want to say which is that areas of
> conflict> with DM are minimal for me.  Now I know you and Lance and
BT have big problems with what he writes but I don't
> see any of you raising any serious issues.
> >From what I can see a lot of it is the fruit of critical spirits.
> You don't like his style or you take offense because
> of the way he expresses himself.  We all come from such different
> backgrounds and are still "works in progress"
> so we need to take this into consideration.  However, the differences
> I have with some others are huge.
> 
> You want to say,"  John, you are as wrong as wrong can be."   I dare
> say, that you hope you leave that impression   --  but you cannot
actually say it.  
> 
> If I thought I needed to say that JD, then I would say it.  I am not
> bound by some false PC; it is not what I want
> to say.
> 
>  You and DM may agree more than , say BT and DM, but that is in part
> because you have chosen to allow him to speak as a pastor in your
> regard.   The fact is this:  you do not fully agree with DM, even in
matters of spiritual importance.  And that is my point.  JD
> 
> I have a pastor JD and it is not DM although I am sure he is a very
> good overseer to those in his home church. Why
> are you telling me I don't agree when I say that I do?  Are you
> telling me that I don't know what I think I know JD?
> 
> Kevin, Kevin, Kevin .... HELP!!!
> 
> 
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:19:04 -0400
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
> 
> 
> Not necessarily either; I find what DM writes to be interesting and
> informative and the
> areas I do not agree with him are minimal.  Some things I put on the
> shelf to check later but on the
> spiritual issues I mainly have an inner Amen and do not understand
> what
> all the brouhaha is about.
> 
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:38:46 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> And when Judy and DM  disagree  -- which is the purveyor of demon
> doctrines?? 
>  
> 
> From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Lance's interpretation of DM and JT = A figment of Lances very active
> imagination and is linked with 
> about as much reality as Monty Python and Cheech & Chong.
> 
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:52:05 -0400 "Lance Muir"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> Jt's interpretation of Scripture=the doctrines of men DM's
> interpretation
> of Scripture=the doctrines of men
> From: Judy Taylor 
> 
> Believing in them is one thing - of course no one will confess to
> believing in them, while ATST many are blindly
> following them.  Any time the clear teaching of God's Word is
> rejected or
> reasoned away in favor of some
> doctrine or other this is taking place.  In fact I experienced it
> just
> yesterday in a class where I saw a video
> explaining why the denomination I attend baptizes babies.  It can't
> be
> justified by God's Word and they twist
> a scripture or two to try and lay the foundation.  I don't understand
> why
> we can't just dedicate the babies
> like Mary & Joseph.  Take them to the temple (?) and consecrate them
> to
> God since they can't understand
> the meaning of baptism and noone can commit their lives for them. 
> judyt
> 
> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:16:50 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> We (here on TT) have gone a long way in proving that unity based on
> "true" doctrine is not the pathway to unity.   All of the issues
> listed
> below were discussions over what the Bible has to say about those
> particular concerns.   Not one person on this site believes in
> "doctrines
> of men."  All are trying to approximate the truth.  If we cannot
> allow
> for "unity" to found in the commonality of our search for truth,
> there
> will be no unity in Christ.  
> 
> JD 
>  
> 
> From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> We lay aside doctrines of men and everything that does not conform us
> to
> godliness and
> holiness and we receive with meekness the "engrafted word" which is
> able
> to save our souls.
> Think about it;  if we do not unite and gather around the truth of
> His
> Word - we will never agree on
> which spirit is the "holy one" because we will have no frame of
> reference.  judyt
> 
> 
> How do we continue when there are so many differences?  
> 
> 
> 
> Eternal Sonship
> Trinity
> Word v Holy Spirit 
> Inspired interpretations
> works v unmerited grace
> the place of water baptism
> tongues as an evidence of the infilling
> Continuance of apostles and prophets
> The place and function of the Church Fathers
> What is "unity."
> What the hell is an ad hom
> Holiness and the indwelling
> Holiness as a gifted consideration
> The works of James v the works of Paul
> What is proof texting
> The  Word of God
> Christ as the King of the Jews
> The Incarnate Christ
> Christ as God v a representative of God
> The narrow road
> The place of the apostles in the church
> Honoring the claim of discipleship
> The use of context
> Hermeneutics
> 
> 
> 
> I would continue but I am watching "The Quiet Man"  and the greatest
> big
> screen fight of all time is about to be shown  (John Wayne and
> company). 
>  
> 
> 
> JD



                
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