Well let's just make an appointment to meet!

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> I think you are agreeing with me (?)  All that is necessary for
> "unity" in this case is the very singular decision to watch
> (together) one program or the other.    How do two walk together
> except they be agreed?  All that is necessary is that they agree to
> move in the same direction.  At no moment in time was Israel fully
> righteous, if we consider the transgressions of each of the children
> of Israel.   But the nation,  and Amos 3 references the nation  (how
> does God and the nation of Israel walk together), the nation needs
> only to  agree to be governed by their God.   If the passage
> referenced total obedience, the sacrifical laws would be needed no
> more.  Not the case.  
>  
> JD
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:16:18 -0500
> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] GOOFY Translations
> 
> 
> Or How can we watch TV together if you're watching the baseball game
> and I'm
> watching Oprah? (Do we even know each other?)iz
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:40 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] GOOFY Translations
> 
> 
> Thanks for bringing this up again
> 
> ROTFL
> 
> How can two walk together unless they have met!
> 
> ROTFL
> 
> Other than the HILARIOUS translations, you have proviuded, you've
> avoided the question, like the plague.
> 
> How can we walk together, while travelling in different directions?
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > the NASV catches the point of Amos 3:3.   Two cannot walk together
> > unless there is a decision to do so.    I can walk with anyone if I
> > only decided to do so.   Absolutely NOTHING in that decision
> requires
> > to me to be in total agreement with the other  --   as you claim.  
> > That is all that is being said, no matter what translation is used.
>  
> >  All of your commentary is just that,  your commentary!!  There is
> no
> > biblical basis for it, no quoting of scripture  --   just kevin
> > deegan's conjecture.   
> > JD 
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:46:28 -0700 (PDT)
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] GOOFY Translations
> > 
> > 
> >  In Amos 3:3 God is rebuking his people for their sin of departing
> > from
> > him and being rebellious. The Lord says: "Can two walk together,
> > except
> > they BE AGREED?" In other words, we must be in agreement with God,
> > see
> > things the way He does, and assent to walk in fellowship with Him
> or
> > we
> > shall surely suffer the consequences.
> > 
> > Other versions that agree with the KJB here are the ASV (the
> version
> > so
> > highly praised by the NASB as being the Rock of Biblical Honesty),
> > Revised Version, the Geneva Bible, both the 1917 and 1936
> > Hebrew-English versions, the Spanish Reina Valera, Darby, Douay,
> New
> > Life Version, Websters Bible translation, NKJV, Green's interlinear
> > and
> > others.
> > 
> > However the NASB says: "Do two men walk together unless they HAVE
> > MADE
> > AN APPOINTMENT?" There is no word for "men" in the Hebrew, so the
> > meaning that this is talking about God and his people walking
> > together
> > is lost. The NASB is speaking about just two men. The phrase "they
> > have
> > made an appointment" completely changes the meaning. People can
> make
> > an
> > appointment to meet together physically, yet they can totally
> > disagree
> > with each other and hold opposite views. The whole meaning of the
> > verse
> > has been changed.
> > 
> > The NIV has: "Do two walk together unless THEY HAVE AGREED TO DO
> SO?,
> > and Daniel Wallace's goofy NET version actually says: "Do two walk
> > together WITHOUT HAVING MET?" 
> > 
> > http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/Biblebabel3.html
> > 
> > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > "unless they be agreed to walk together.'   NASV " ..  unless
> they
> > > have an appointment."   It certainly does not mean "unless they
> > agree
> > > on every single important consideration."
> > >  
> > > JD 
> > >  
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:23:39 -0700 (PDT)
> > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:Mt. 16:13 fg
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Maybe you could help me with this then?
> > > 
> > > Amos 3:3 How can two walk together except they be agreed?
> > > 
> > > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > OK but, I don't think the same concerning yourself.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Kevin Deegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: July 18, 2005 15:48
> > > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > And as long as you hold the doctrines you do, I will HOLD to
> > > > separation
> > > > > NOT UNITY with you
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> The unity comes NOT through agreement on doctrine(s)
> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > >> From: "Kevin Deegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >> To: <[email protected]>
> > > > >> Sent: July 18, 2005 11:44
> > > > >> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Sorry I disagree with you JD
> > > > >> > I guess we have NO UNITY then!
> > > > >> > That is fine with me, based on the doctrines you profer, I
> > > > prefer
> > > > >> NO
> > > > >> > UNITY with you!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > UNITY with ERROR holds no attraction for me.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > --- ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> We have no unity of agreement on that statement,
> obviously.
> > 
> > > I
> > > > >> >> consider anyone who follows RCC doctrine, or theologians'
> > > > doctrine
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> > direct conflict> with God's Word to be following the
> > doctrines
> > > > of
> > > > >> men.
> > > > >> > izzy
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>   _____
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>    Not one person on this site believes in "doctrines of
> > > men."
> > > > >> >> JD
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
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