says you? You think "conviction" is just a casual but important intellectual decision.? Intellectualism is compared to emotion -- the emotion of love - in I Cor 8:1-3. Now, go ahead and tell me that "love" in that passage is not an emotion, I am ready !!
JD
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No, JD, faith is NOT an emotion. It is an act of the will. izzy
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True faith is rational not
emotional. DM
emotional. DM
Nonsense. I do not believe in emotionalism -- but faith as in "conviction" is an emotion.
Jd
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Bill wrote:
> Check out its translation of this word translated
> "established" in the KJV.
Thanks, Bill. That was helpful. I understand better the reason for the
passage now.
What do you think about the quote Lance posted? It still seems rather
superficial and misleading to me, but I don't have the context and I hate to
nitpick anything without context. One can do this with Bible verses too,
all day long. Context and the end of a conversation means everything.
The Isaiah passage is speaking about spiritual things, a prophetic
utterance, and as I said before, nothing in the spirit can be understood
without faith because nothing in the spirit can be perceived without faith.
To then try and extend this to establishing the idea that understanding in
general is based upon faith rather than reason, or that faith is not
reasonable but rather emotional, etc., is going way beyond anything that can
be gleaned from this passage.
Jesus said that unless they saw signs and wonders, they would not believe.
Oh, I had better stop now. I'm already speaking too much about a quote
without any context, and it is probably stepping on one of Lance's icons.
If the LXX of Isaiah 7:9 is the context of the quote, that is good enough
for now. I suspect if I heard it in the flow of a sermon or lecture, you
would hear hearty amen's from me about it. I just didn't like Blaine
on it followed by Lance's amen to Blaine
emotional.
Peace be with you.
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