Re: [TruthTalk] The War and other Issues

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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The War and other Issues

 

 

You know, this is great.   Until last year,  I was pro- death penalty.   I no longer believe in the death penalty.   Not because I think the State does not have the right to make that decision, but because it was recently shown that 11 death row inmates out of 23 or 26 in Illinois were actually innocent by DNA  !!

 

Your observation below is, of course, right on.   It is not that we couldn't have won in Korea or Nam.  Rather, it was because we could not make the political decisions necessary to escalate and win these wars.   It does appear to me that we, as a nation, are afraid to do what has to be done to win.   War is distasteful, to say the least.   but if we do not have the backbone to make the really tough decisions, we should avoid any and all offensive action.   Our record with such is pathetic  --  if not criminal. 

 

JD

 

 

 

 
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From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 12:29:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The War and other Issues

Why fight the war over there; so far away, let's wait till it comes over here!

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Silliness.   War is no game, Linda.   There are those on this forum who see no point to war at all  --  and that may be where I am headed.   But, for now,  I am what I am.  

 

The war?   Military leaders are now beginning to speak of 7 more years !!  We have surrendered,  I believe, to a set of political rules    -------     making this a political war  (if it wasn't before).   The enemy has expanded the war within Iraq.   We have not, nor can we.     The 14 young solders killed yesterday drove on top of a 500 pound bomb.   How do these holes get dug without notice?   Well, they don't.  It is just that no one is telling us about their location   --   the people who are to benefit from the sacrifice of those who will be killed by these bombs are not helping as they should.  

 

Many pro-war leaders are now telling us that the people in Iraq are hedging their bets  --  wanting to help but preparing for life after we leave.   Unless and until we can convince these people that the process we hope for, the political process, is going to flourish, many if not most of the citizens of Iraq will continue to be governed by fearful concerns regarding our eventual departure.  

 

When you bring in the corruption that is apparently going on in high places in that country and the increasing and perpetual counter attack from the enemy  --  you have the receipt for disaster.

 

JD

 

    

 
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From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com>
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Sent: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:56:07 -0500
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The War and other Issues

Jd, is this the same criteria you use as a Dodgers fan? What a loser attitude.  Izzy  

 

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My comments are limited to "what do we do now."   If we are fighting AND winning, that is one thing.  That does not appear to be the case.     

 

JD

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