On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 16:05:11 -0600 "Bill Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Judy wrote  >  It can be truly said that he took our fallen natures upon Himself at Calvary from noon to 3 p.m. when everything went black and the earth quaked.
 
Hi Judy. You've made this claim on numerous occasions: Can you tell me where exactly in Scripture it is stated?
 
Bill

Judy responds  >  Matthew 27:45-54

Now from the sixth hour until the ninth hour there was darkness over all the land. And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" Some of those who stood there, when they heard that, said, "This Man is calling for Elijah!" Immediately one of them ran and took a sponge, filled it with sour wine and put it on a reed, and offered it to Him to drink. The rest said, "Let Him alone; let us see if Elijah will come to save Him." And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit. Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many. So when the centurion and those with him, who were guarding Jesus, saw the earthquake and the things that had happened, they feared greatly, saying, "Truly this was the Son of God!" -- NKJV Matthew 27:45-54

Hi Judy, is there nothing explicit to substantiate your claim? This doesn't say anything about Jesus taking "our fallen natures upon Himself at Calvary."

Bill

 

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Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Humanity of Jesus

Matthew 27:45-54
 
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 16:05:11 -0600 "Bill Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Judy wrote  >  It can be truly said that he took our fallen natures upon Himself at Calvary from noon to 3 p.m. when everything went black and the earth quaked.
 
Hi Judy. You've made this claim on numerous occasions: Can you tell me where exactly in Scripture it is stated?
 
Bill
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Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Humanity of Jesus

 
 
 
How nice that you are thinking about my well being JD .. I appreciate the thought
Only you had better get your belief system together and study to learn what sin is
all about because when the light comes on you will be horrified that you ever
believed and taught others that Jesus the pure and holy son of God was ever an
evil carnal fleshly human born with a fallen Adamic nature just like you.  
 
This was not a requirement for Him to overcome in the 3 areas where A&E failed.
It can be truly said that he took our fallen natures upon Himself at Calvary from
noon to 3 p.m. when everything went black and the earth quaked. This is the only
time ever that there was a breach between Him and God the Father. This should
be evidence enough of how God views sin.  It is not individual acts alone, it is us.
Our old unregenerate darkened heart.   judyt
 
 
 
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 16:10:37 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A good reread for Judy.   JD


From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Judy.  I would like to continue our dialogue about the humanity of Jesus.
 
We discussed Romans 8:3 before.
 
Romans 8:2-4
(2) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from
the law of sin and death.
(3) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh,
God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin,
condemned sin in the flesh:
(4) That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not
after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
 
In past discussion, you say that the word "likeness" here means like but not
the same as.  I pointed out how this same word is used in Phil. 2:7 where it
says he was made in the likeness of men.  In this Philippians passage, I
would not argue that Jesus is similar to a man in appearance but is not
really a man.  I believe that you had agreed with me that Jesus was indeed
truly a man.
 
So although the word "likeness" might mean what you say, not the same as but
only a superficial resemblance, it also could mean the in the form of.  If
he came in the likeness of men, he was a man, and if he came in the likeness
of sinful flesh, then he had sinful, corruptible flesh.  My question to you
is this.  Is it possible for the passage to mean this when taken alone?  I'm
not asking if you agree that it means this right now.  I am only asking you
if this is a possible interpretation of this passage if nothing else were
considered?  I am wondering if I would show you from other passages in the
Bible that this is how this passage should be read, if it might be possible
for you to change your mind about how you presently interpret this word
"likeness."
 
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
 
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