1. The Apostolic churches here in my area believe that new birth and the baptism of the Spirit are the same thing, that's why.
2. The sin issue was settled on the cross and apart from our activity. If the law could have taken away sin, our effectual participation would have been confirmed.
3. Is baptism in the Spirit always and only evidenced by the speaking in tongues?
4. Is the new birth an event or a process? You seem to be saying that it is a process.
JD
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From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 11:49:31 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Contrasting theologices
John wrote: > Now - one last question. I am certain that > your fellowship believes that baptism of the > Spirit with evidence of tongues IS the moment > of the New Birth. Not true, John. Why would you even think this? John wrote: > You apparently do not agree. > When does "new birth" take place, > in your opinion? When a person is cleansed of his sins and believes upon the Lord and is able to perceive the kingdom of God, he has experienced the new birth. This must happen before he is immersed in the Holy Spirit and speaks in tongues (John 14:17). Peace be with you. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.

