Re: [TruthTalk] Adam - sin - and the rest of us

[Judy Taylor]

Thank you Terry ....   On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:40:13 -0500 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John 17:12 Those you gave me I have kept, and none of them is lost except the son of perdition ================================================================ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speculation, my dear.   If repentance is a "change of mind,"  then the return of the money is clearly a change of mind.   The suicide  could very well have been an extention of that change of heart   Now, I am not saying that he was ultimately saved.  I just think that we need to be careful with our doctrine concerning Judas.   And we do have a doctrine concerning the man.   If that didache includes the notion that He had no choice in the betrayal;  if we think that he was selected  (emphasis on "selected") from the beginning to be the player that he was and that this betrayal extended from a thorough going inward wickedness,  well,  I do not agree with that.     JD   -