DAVEH:   DavidM.....I do hope you are now back online, and OK.  My guess is that you are relatively quiet because you are out ministering to those who suffered through Katrina.....is that a good guess?    

    Why do you think God allowed Satan to screw up the Lord's plan, causing such pain and agony to his Son?  Could God not instead simply have banished or even destroyed Lucifer to keep him from bringing temptation into the world?

David Miller wrote:
Debbie wrote:
  
I would also agree, though, that humanity before
the fall was "less" than what we-in-Christ are and
will be.
    

The way I understand it, human life prior to the fall was characterized as 
having:

1. No death.

2. No sickness or disease.

3. No influence of evil spirits of the air.

4. No sinful nature of the flesh.

5. No sin.

The plan of redemption in Christ includes a plan of restoration concerning 
all these areas which changed after the fall.  Do you see it differently?

After the fall, there was 1) death, 2) sickness and disease, 3) influence of 
evil spirits in the air to lead others into sin, 4) a sinful nature 
inherited in the flesh, 5) sin.



Peace be with you.
David Miller. 
  
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