On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:45:32 -0700 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DAVEH:  Rest assured Judy, I have no illusions about other TTers' thoughts about me being deceived.  Nor am I offended that you or anybody else believe such.  I just appreciate your forthrightness in discussing it openly, and without malice.  Though your message may be harsh, you did try to frame it kindly....thank you.

    I am curious to know if you believe I am dispensing spiritual poison though.  Do you believe that I am conscientiously trying to deceive TTers?  Or, do you think that offering explanations about my beliefs when asked is detrimental to other TTers in some way?   I guess what I am ultimately trying to find out is if you or other TTers feel that just having a Mormon on TT is a big threat to you or your faith.
 
No DaveH, I don't believe any of the above in fact you are to be commended for the restraint you show on TT
However, most of us on TT have been believers for quite a while.  The consensus here with which I agree is that you are a nice guy.  I work on our family history and have been to the Mormon stake here and am aware there you are not alone, there are a lot of very nice Mormon people and that in itself can be a snare. I think I shared the story of my young friend in Nfld - a baby Christian with a weakness for good looking fellows who was taken in by Mormon missionaries who said they were just like her.  You are not doing that.

    As I've said before, I think the idea of TT being a place where Christians (and non Christians) of all faiths can discuss beliefs we share in common, and those we don't.  And to me, it the ability to converse with somebody with radically different beliefs is beneficial.  Otherwise, I'm dependent on hearing about such things from biased sources (often times LDS) that may not be entirely accurate.  Yet I know that some TTers do not share my enthusiasm for hearing about what others believe.  It seems instead that they only feel comfortable when they can impose their beliefs on others, with the assumption that their beliefs are superior.  Perhaps that in itself isn't so bad, but it sure strikes me odd that some seem to cop an attitude and get their noses out of joint when they don't quite control the discussion to their liking.   So....Any idea what causes this in some folks?
 
I don't know if you include me in that group DaveH - I may not know when to quit but I don't get my nose out of
joint and desire the fellowship of the Holy Spirit too much to hang on to an attitude.  I can't speak for others, but
it is my personal belief that the doctrines of men become idols in the heart and blind ppl; they become stumbling blocks and ppl who hold them will not receive further light.  This is why there are so many little groups and major
denominations in professing Christendom.

Judy Taylor wrote:
It's not my heart to be mean Terry - I just thought it needed to be said and I put it in the kindest
way I know.  I like DaveH too but reality tells me he is deceived. Is there another way to say it?
I know you don't think we should ignore it?.
 
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:04:52 -0500 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Give me a little credit, Judy.  I suggested that you follow his example of being courteous and
respectful.  Your comment was mean and uncalled for. You know better. Terry
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Let's get real here Terry ... Satan comes as an angel of light - so are you saying that it's OK to
dispense spiritual poison so long as one is nice, polite, and dosen't offend anyone?  This is
how all cults begin....
 
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:07:52 -0500 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Stay tuned.  Maybe you can learn from observing others, possibly Dave Hansen.  ==========================================================

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