Much time and effort have taught me that being specific
with you is a waste of time JD.
I was specific here to the point of posting scripture
to support my point and you just blow it off as conjecture...
In case you don't remember Gary and you were claiming
Dylan's flesh and blood was in on more because
it was Jewish. Did you even bother to look up 1
Cor 15:50
No problem for me. No scripture for
your conclusions but no problem for me.
Conjecture is or can be a good thing --- as long as we
admit to such. Thanks for you admission. JD
From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The whole NT JD. The fact that flesh and blood does not inherit God's Kingdom because
corruption can not inherit incorruption should not be a
new revelation to you (1 Cor 15:50)
so it matters not which culture your flesh and
blood belong to - Paul called the Jews "his
kinsmen after the flesh" (Romans 9) - Is this a
problem for you?. judyt
JD responds:
No problem for me. No scripture for
your conclusions but no problem for me.
Conjecture is or can be a good thing --- as long as we
admit to such. Thanks for you admission. JD
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:20:06 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Definition please. To state that you have given it in the past -- nowhere to be found -- is just another way of avoiding the question. I truly have no idea why you (all) avoid giving answers that are definitive and available for reference in the future. Why is that? Aaahhh -- don't answer that -- just answer the first question. what is your definition of "judgmentalism?"JD
From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
I've yet to have a fit over anything here - which shows how dislocated you are JDOn Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:41:44 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Please restate the definition. I cannot find your definition. You have, in deed, repeatedly pointed it out to me. But when I make the same point to you (that you are being judgmental) you have a fit.WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION. Is it that difficult to come up with ??JD
From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
I have defined it JD, I have repeatedly pointed it out when you participate with itOn Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:07:30 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:do you believe that there is a "judgmentalism" that is sinful? If so, how do you define this "judgmentalism." Apparently JT cannot come up with a definition. Are we so divided, here on TT, that we cannot come to terms on such a basic consideration? JD
From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com>
Stop being so JUDGEmental!Is that what your saying? Or doing?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Let me put it a different way: such talk is immature and reveals the carnalityof the believer. Good reasons for amending the attitude. It was for me. JD
From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com>
Let's share!!!!Could you please pass the poison?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I missed the original post by Terry. Good words for us all. I do believe this all goes to why we are here -- on TT. to learn, share, or simply to learn what others think --- all that is good. None of us on TT are kids. We do not need to be warned that we are outside the grace of God or His community of believers. Such talk is unproductive. Thanks for the words.JD
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Clifton <wabbits1234@earthlink.net>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:07:52 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself
Stay tuned. Maybe you can learn from observing others, possibly Dave Hansen.
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Judy Taylor wrote:On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:33:59 -0500 Terry Clifton <wabbits1234@earthlink.net> writes:I think we could start by being graceful, showing grace rather than sarcasm, being more concerned about loving our neighbor or our enemy than we are about pointing out errors in what they believe. I am not suggesting that you adopt their position or that you compromise what you believe.I agree with you about the sarcasm Terry - however the above kind of grace could also be perceived as "being patronizing" especially since it is not possible to give anyone a hug or a glass of cold water.I am saying that if you cannot agree, consider that they are being sincere even if they are in error, and with that in mind, very politely ask questions that will help them understand better as well as help you understand them better.I don't know how to do that Terry - I think Izzy is much better at it than me but sometimes her questions aremisunderstood and she is accused or less than godly motives. What's wrong with believing the best of ppland questioning and examining doctrine?Try to remember that your opinion and three dollars will get you a whopper at Burger King. Do not over estimate the value of your contribution to the conversation. You do not have to jump on every word someone else speaks, and when you do, it simply creates a situation where everyone digs in their heels and butts heads and everyone ends up defending their position instead of trying to understand what the other guy is trying to say.FWIW in this group I don't believe there can be a conversation without some butting of heads. What is believing one thing in the heart and speaking something else out of the mouth called again? It's either butt heads or be silent.Jesus, Peter and Paul spoke a great deal about loving others. They said very little about winning a debate.
For what it's worth. TerryI don't know about all that Terry. Peter and Paul didn't always agree and Paul and Barnabus parted ways overJohn Mark - and these are just the few instances we know about .... Nothing wrong with honest discussion sofar as I'm concerned and some communication is better than none.
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Judy Taylor wrote:From: Terry CliftonWe are all proudly proclaiming how right we are, but to claim that we are doing it in love would be a bald faced lie. The fault does not lie with you alone as I have been as guilty as anyone, and it is not only the fault of the Fundies as the Libs can be just as mean spirited as well.How would you say one is to love over the internet Terry?
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