Terry  -  let's not get to off the beaten track.  Ours is a ministry of reconciliation TO THE LOST.  Romans 16:17 is a word of caution for those WITHIN THE CHURCH.   He is talking about those within the church who cause division, who spew hatefulness, prejudice and judgementalism.   Include yourself in that first sentence and I will do likewise, brother.   
 
What should we do with the lost  --  wave underwear at them and write letters?   Or maybe teach or preach to them the marvelous Word of Grace?  I have Jesus as an example  ...........   the other side of the issue does not. 
 
Jd 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Clifton <wabbits1234@earthlink.net>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 07:54:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] an argument from the gay community for homosecuality

Lance Muir wrote:
It (Christian homosexual) is no more of an oxymoron than 'Christian sinner',. In spite of the poor exegesis and poor theology to the contrary, this is so.
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How in the world can one so educated be so consistantly in error?  This pervert that John quoted was offering false teachings, claiming that many in the Bible, including David and Jonathan, were queer.
 Now let me quote from Romans 16:17. " Now I urge you brethren, note those who cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which you learned and avoid them."                In the previous verse, Paul instructs Christians to greet each other with a holy kiss.  There is no instruction to avoid a Christian.  There is no instruction to kiss a  false teacher, queer or otherwise.  JD is going against God's will when he spends time with one he has been told to avoid.  If this pervert were a Christian John would be told to greet him with a holy kiss.  It cannot be both ways.  Saved or lost, queer or Christian, never a hybred.

I think the way one commentator put it was very good, making this verse understandable even to the educated.  " Genuine love will be ready to forgive evil, but it will not condone it and will not ignore it."
I hope John takes a new look at his position.  We all need to understand what Paul is teaching here .
Terry

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