Yes -- could he come and live with us for a few months?
Seriously, I really need his lecture either on CD or in written form. I have notes from the lecture.
I truly was extremely disappointed when I found that I could not get the CD of that lecture. For me, it is the nuts and bolts of this trinitarian gospel. The biblical soundness of his lecture (you know I like to hear "book, chapter and verse") coupled with the practicality of it all are the reasons why I elevate his March presentation to the "best of alllllllllll time" (Mohammed Ali, 1964).
Here is a question. If I were to spend time, out here on the Left Coast, visiting various pastors, introducing them to perichoresis (I seldom use the word), could he come here and present The Lecture.
Cost? And does he have suggestions as to the approach I might use in creating an audience for this occasion. Actually, I am creative enough to figure this out -- but a little input would be a good thing. And how can I get a CD copy of his lecture. How about a little "distance education" on this lecture ------------ we used to call this "correspondence courses." As a pastoral counselor, I was involved in a "practicum" for purposes of training. Something similar would seem to be a rather awesome idea, even if I do say so myself.
JD
-----Original Message-----
From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 07:13:46 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mythology and the "list"
Do you have any QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OTHER THAN THAT ONE?
----- Original Message -----From: knpraise@aol.comSent: October 02, 2005 07:00Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mythology and the "list"THE MARCH WACHOPE PRESENTATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOLY SNICKIES -- YOU HAVE THAT ON CD ??? I was just telling BillyT how disappointed I was that same was not available. That lecture was perhaps the most important lecture I have personally every heard. Is there anyway of getting a copy?Jd
-----Original Message-----
From: Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 04:53:24 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mythology and the "list"
ALL are elect in Jesus!!!!!!!! This is God's 'ONE TRUE PURPOSE'!Other than the 'heart' of JD and the 'lyrical' contributions of 'G', TT is 'bout ready to dry up and blow away.NOTE TO JD: CBK is in town and, I'm listening to the March Wauchope presentation whilst driving to and from. I'm going to see him later today if you've got any comments/questions you wish to pass along.----- Original Message -----From: knpraise@aol.comSent: October 02, 2005 00:31Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mythology and the "list"Again , you make comment that has little to do with what I have written. At least you are consistent.You really like the sound of the "narrow road" thingy, don'e you? I prefer the part that says there are so many, they cannot be counted.JD
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 16:45:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mythology and the "list"
So?We may be at different places in our pilgrimage but are basically travelling the same road which is thenarrow path with he strait gate. Whereas others on TT appear to be breathing rarified air and on thebroad road ... jtOn Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:30:48 -0400 knpraise@aol.com writes:I have a definition and fully understand what "judgmentalism" is. Nothing double tongued about it. Give me your definition and I'll share mine. The clear reason why you Wingers refuse to present a list of doctrines upon which we must all agree has to do with the impossibility of the matter -- your list, Deegan's list, Judy's list or DM's list would not be the same !!! So you all pretend to agree with each other while refusing, at the same time, to offer specifics as to this mythological list. You judge others to hell but refuse to be accountable. &n bsp; Ditto on this definition for judgmentalism. You all cannot give a definition that does not find yourselves at fault.&nbs p;But I already knew this.JD
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From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:56:19 -0500
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How can you be so double-tongued, JD? You accuse me of that all the time!!! iz
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I believe it is spelled "judgmentalism," Bub, and why bring up the word anyway - no one on the right has a clue as to its definition. Hard to accuse someone of it when you don't know what it is.JD
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From: Kevin Deegan <openairmission@yahoo.com>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:29:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [TruthTal k] an argument from the gay community for homosexuality
And your Judgemental too!Is your Brand of HATE speech and JUDGEMENTALISM allowed in the People's Republique of CANUCKastan?
Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Kevin: Y'all confuse HONESTY with HATEFULNESS. Y'all don't SPEAK, Kevin, y'all SPEW! JD has recognized this 'bout y'all since I bin on TT.----- Original Message -----From: Kevin DeeganSent: September 29, 2005 15:51Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] an argument from the gay community for homosecualityStop being so HATEfull Lance.
Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:He did indeed 'hit sin on the head', Judy. Mostly however, he hit it on the head with those in the 'churches' of His day. That ring any bells with any of you out there? (Judy, Kevin, Iz) At whom/with whom do we see His anger most expressed? At whom/with whom do we see the opposite? Why look, it's the very ones y'all choose to hate, demonstrate against etc. Hmm mmmmmmmm strange hugh? Do we all read the sa me Bible?----- Original Message -----From: Judith H TaylorSent: September 29, 2005 07:52Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] an argument from the gay community for homosecualityWhy arn't you talking about the "gay issue?" We are supposed to minister the way Jesus did as He is our exampleand He always hit sin head on ie He confronted the rich young ruler with his heart of covetousness which he was notyet willing to part with. Jesus didn't chase after him and keep talking about grace. He did minister to those God showedHim and warned them to go and sin no more lest a worse thing come upon them. But He didn't minister to everyone he met.Today we take sin so lightly because we don't believe God means what He says or that the chaos in our lives is rootedin sin and unrighteousness. God is supposed to bless this mess because of grace, because he loves us so much and thisis the lie. He will not do it because to do so He would have to violate His own Word. You can talk grace till the cowscome home but until this person hears the truth and is willing to repent from the heart God will not honor your words JD.On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:15:10 -0500 Terry Clifton <wabbits1234@earthlink.net> writes:knpraise@aol.com wrote:I wish you well. TerryWell, maybe God has put us together "for such a time as this." Right now the relationship is something of a novelty -- at least for him. My conversation with him is different from "the others." So, maybe I might be able to make sense to him. What I am not doing is talking about the gay issue, per se. He is but I am trying to get him to stop and examine what it means when it says that "Christ died for us while we were YET sinners." My concern is that he understand the gospel of grace and , and, and, what it really mean s to be "saved." The new birth will produce& nbsp; - given time ............... so that is where I begin -----------&n bsp; with the new birth. JD====================================
