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Sent: October 05, 2005 07:01
Subject: : [TruthTalk] God is a
relational God: Father, Son, Spirit
From: "Lance Muir" <
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David:
You speak of 'MY BIBLE' meaning yours, of course.
Of course he does - would you expect him to be
reading from YOUR BIBLE Lance?
Which is what? The dead sea scrolls? Glad
to see you writing again DavidM
You wield your sword competently, David. As I said elsewhere, there
are those
who hang on YOUR interpretation(s) both on this forum and in your church.
And who might these be 'O wise one' from the Northern
Regions? I agree with
DavidM most of the time because he sees the same Word
by the same Spirit
I don't hang on ANY man's interpretation. IMO
which doesn't count for much in
your circle - hanging on men's interpretations is
what will cause your demise in
the last day.
Me, I see 'em for what they are; the constructions of a self-taught man.
(good
though they may be on occasion)
Self-taught huh! Stated by one who by his own
testimony is ignorant of and
does not KNOW the Teacher.
Why return simply to confuse some younger believer rather than permitting
them to be taught by the Word and the Spirit?
Obtuse insight for sure. He is the listowner -
why shouldn't he return? Throwing
more vulnerable believers to the "incarnational"
wolves would not be loving or
caring would it?
At least you did receive a modest 'hand', if not a standing ovation, from
the 'Iz corner'. That musta made ya feel good?
I'll submit a standing ovation from the judyt corner
and hope it makes DavidM
feel even better - not that he is moved by feelings
because if he were he would
have shut this down long ago since he is more
persecuted and maligned than
any of us. Why do you save your most vindictive
rhetoric for him Lance?? I
wonder about that. At this point I figure it is
because of his education and social
standing. You can put the rest of us in a corner with
the religious zealots, fundies,
women, and ignorant but DM seems to stick in your
craw for some reason.....
> Lance wrote:
>> As 'believers, we 'participate' (in
our relationship with Him
>> and with each other) inadequately and
incompletely EVERY
>> DAY. This is the reality of the Christian life.
Any voice, human
>> or otherwise, who would suggest that this is not
the case speaks
>> against the truth of the gospel.
>
>
Lance, with all due respect, in the time I have known you through email
> here
> on TruthTalk, you consistently judge others using
yourself as the
> standard.
> YOU are not the standard by which
we are to judge what is possible or what
> is
impossible.
>
> A better yard stick to use would be the
Bible. Yes, I know, everybody
> disagrees about what the Bible
says, but that is simply because most
> people
> do not obey the
Bible. Those who obey the Bible hear what it has to say,
> and
>
they do come to agreement. That does not mean that everyone has
identical
> perspectives. We are not meant to have identical
perspectives. Rather,
> it
> means that we are in complete
agreement, whether it be like Paul and James
> on being justified by
faith or justified by works, or whether it be like
> Izzy and me on the
subject of holiness.
>
> Now my Bible says that those who are
practicing righteousness is righteous
> even as HE (Christ) is righteous
(1 John 3:7). Surely you are not going
> to
> argue that
Jesus Christ himself was inadequate or incomplete, are you? If
>
not, then we have no reason to believe your false gospel that
everybody
> inadequately and incompletely are in relationship with
Christ and each
> other.
>
> 1 John 1:7 says that if we walk
in the light as he is in the light, we
> have
> fellowship one
with another. This does not speak about inadequate or
> incomplete
fellowship. This passage speaks about a reality available to
>
all
> those who will believe the gospel.
>
> Col. 2:10 says
that we are complete in him. Why do you say, "we are not
>
complete in him, but we all inadquately and incompletely, EVERY DAY,
>
participate in our relationship with him"? Please speak for yourself
and
> not me on this issue. You do not represent me or Christ on
this issue.
> You
> should say "I" rather than "we," but better
yet, learn the truth of the
> Scriptures and then get your mouth lined
up with God's Word. Confess what
> God's Word says rather than
what your experience tells you about your past
> life. Change
cannot happen if you are always looking back. You must look
>
forward to Christ, and reach for him, and apprehend him, always
reaching
> forward in an adequate and complete manner that continually
gets better
> every day.
>
> Peace be with you.
>
David Miller.
>
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