Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

[Dave]

DAVEH:  Do any of them exist today in significant numbers? Kevin Deegan wrote: There are plenty of "groups" that pre date the protestants and therefore can not by any definition be considered "protestant" AnaBaptists Waldensians Montanists   Besides there was NO Catholic Church in 30AD. The RCC came along generations later. Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DAVEH:  What puzzle?  My interest is the Protestant connection.  To which non-Protestant group are you referring, Kevin? Kevin Deegan wrote: Maybe you leave out a very important piece of the puzzle, when you leave the NON Protestant groups out of the equation. Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DAVEH:   Dang.......you are sucking me in again, Kevin!        I don't see it as a limited apostasy, but rather a general apostasy that affected the entire Church.     It isn't that I believe the Protestants erred, but rather that they never had a solid (or live) root, and subsequently they merely adopted (such as the case of the Trinity Doctrine) or reformed (viz, baptism) the doctrinal principles of the RCC.     Those outside the RCC or Protestant realms do not particularly intrigue me, nor am I very knowledgeable about them.  My interests tend to focus on the Reformer's need to distance themselves from RCC authority, while at the same time feeling compelled to keep the theology, while modifying those doctrines they believed had devolved. Kevin Deegan wrote: So you see a limited Apostacy as it was only the RCC not the Protestants who ERRED? And what of those that continued as neither part of the RCC nor were they "protestants" since they existed before the protestants and contemporaneous to the RCC? They were the recipients of the terror of the RCC burnings etc. Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are Protestants, Christians? DAVEH:  As much so as LDS folks.   My main interest is in Protestants because of their need to reform traditional theology (on the RCC level), yet deny the apostasy into which we (LDS) perceive the RCC fell.   I find that train of succession (for the lack of a better word).......or, evolution of religious thought to be interesting, and is the focal point of my participation in TT. Kevin Deegan wrote: Why do you draw a line between Protestants and LDS? Are Protestants, Christians? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.