I was reading 1 Corinthians 7, not particularly thinking of this topic, but I read this about circumcision:
1 Cor. 7:18 - Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? Let him not be circumcised. And then verse 19 says how circumsision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments. I was wondering: does this verse apply to this situation at all? If the two were unsaved when they were divorced and then remarried, and then get saved while in this second relationship, it doesn't sound right to divorce again, just as someone circumsised should not be uncircumsised after coming to Christ. Why not accept forgiveness and begin to walk afresh? And I have a question: does King David's example apply to this situation? Or was that different? What do you all think? This is a difficult issue. Blessings! --- Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I see it, there can be no forgivness without > turning from the sin > that needs to be forgiven. That means that they > cannot stay in that > relationship and have a relationship with the Lord. > The normal > reaction here is to say "Consider the others that > will be hurt," and > there is nothing wrong with considering the feelings > of others, but > Jesus says you have to love Him so much, that by > comparison, the love > you have for spouse and children and self seems so > inferior to your love > for Christ that love for family seems more like > hate. Christ is the > Alpha and Omega, beginning to end, start to finish. > What He wants comes > first. Self and family come second. If He wants > you to turn from your > adultery, then you turn from your adultery, no > matter what the cost. > > By now, someone is saying, "I know God better than > that! He is love'. > All I can tell those folks is to read Ezra 10:10 to > the end of the > chapter. You will see a story of men who had also > married women that > they should not have married, and how they corrected > the situation. > > Even when it is painful, God does not comprmise > with the Devil. > Terry > ============================================================= > > ShieldsFamily wrote: > > > Other than sackcloth and ashes, what form should > their repentance > > take? They have never apologized to their > ex-spouses for destroying > > their families, and still speak evil of them at > every opportunity. It > > seems like a hopeless situation, but surely God > could help them > > repent. If they did truly repent, would God call > them to separate? > > There are indeed so many couples in the church > today that remain in > > marriages that are, in fact, adulteries. But if > they truly repent > > must they also be single the rest of their lives? > And what about > > anyone who ever had sexual relations prior to > their current marriage? > > And, as DM said, Torah forbids reuniting with an > "unclean" spouse. > > It's a difficult situation. iz > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On > Behalf Of *Terry Clifton > > *Sent:* Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:23 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you > offer? > > > > > > > > Mornin' Iz. As I see it, these two are lying to > themselves. To repent > > means to turn and go in another direction. When > Jesus, Peter, Paul, > > John and others called sinners to repentance, they > were calling for a > > 180 turn, from sin, to Christ. From living for > self, to living for > > Him. These people, if they still have sexual > relations, are still in > > adultery and still in their sins, still living for > self. There is no > > forgivness that allows continual living in > rebellion to God's > > commands. My advice would be for them to get out > the sack cloth and > > ashes. > > > > You will not hear this much from the pulpit these > days. The pastor > > who preaches this will be gone and the adulterers > will still be a > > substantial part of the congregation. > > Terry > > > ============================================================ > > > > ShieldsFamily wrote: > > > > > > > > Okay, add to Terry's original scenario the fact > that the couple that > > realized that they were living in adultery had > actually been > > "Christians" prior to their adultery with each > other. They then each > > divorced their spouses because they were "in > love". They now have a > > child between them, as well as their children from > their previous > > marriages. But now they claim that they have > repented and are > > forgiven. What is your advice to them? izzy > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Sent: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:08:55 -0600 > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you > offer? > > > > Both you and JD seem to think that these two > should stay in their > > adulterous relationship. I want to say the same > thing, for the > > benefit of the children if for no other reason. > Fact is though, that > > I cannot reconcile that line of reasoning with > God's word. > > > > John, the baptizer lost his head for condemning > the same situation > > between Herod and Herodious. If it is wrong for > Mr. and Mrs. Herod, > > it is wrong for Mr. and Mrs. Verage. When John > said," You cannot have > > her", the message is that God will not approve of > people living in > > adultery. I can find no exception in the new > testament. Could either > > of you do more to justify your position? I would > also like to hear > > the thinking of Bill and David M. on this. > > Terry > > > > > > > > Dean Moore wrote: > > > > > > > >>[Original Message] > >> > >>From: Dean Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <javascript:parent.ComposeTo('[EMAIL PROTECTED]');> > >> > >>To: <[email protected]> > <javascript:parent.ComposeTo('[email protected]');> > >> > >>Date: 11/5/2005 8:47:47 AM > >> > >>Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you > offer? > >> > >> > >> > >>cd: Tell me more about this adulterous > relationship? Thanks. > >> > >> > >> > >cd: I understand now-I had read the letter as the > young ones are in the > > > >adulterous relationship. I am going to step out on > a limb and say let a > > > >person remain in the state in which they were > called and hope I am not > > > >going beyond Paul's teachings.If you are called > married stay married. The > === message truncated === __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
