I agree, Dean.  But what if they made their vows before God but didn't have
a traditional civil marriage ceremony?  Does God still consider them to be
married? I think so.  I'm not advocating that in any way, but I DO think God
recognizes the couple as married in HIS eyes--which is what really counts,
isn't it? Iz

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>
>
> So if two teenagers are having sexual relations, are they married in 
> God's viewpoint? I think not if they have not made a lifetime 
> commitment to each other before God. But if they have I think they are 
> married in God's
eyes.  
>
> What if a single man and woman are the only inhabitants on a deserted
island
> and decide to marry each other for life?  Does God hold it against 
> them
that
> they have no civil ceremony or witnesses? I think not. In fact, there 
> is
no
> model of a marriage ceremony in the Bible, which makes me think that 
> is pretty unimportant--it's the commitment to each other before God 
> that matters, both before and after the marriage, and that makes it a 
> real marriage IMO. And no "takiebackies".  FWIW, iz

cd: Sister Izzy I believe that these two would still have to make the vows
before God-if not it's just fornication -There was no Minister for Adam and
Eve's marriage in the Garden but they committed their lives to each other
-as they were together for life.The vows are our covenant with spouse and
God.In the Torah there were signs for a covenant such as piling up
stones-later wittiness's were used as a way of offering proof of the vows
which validate the marrage.I ,in effect, told my wife upon marriage-if you
give yourself to me then I will provide/protect and love you till
death-others wittiness this promise in case I attempt to break it-in the
torah there were stiff penalties for doing so-such penalties exist today.
>



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