I agree, Dean. But what if they made their vows before God but didn't have a traditional civil marriage ceremony? Does God still consider them to be married? I think so. I'm not advocating that in any way, but I DO think God recognizes the couple as married in HIS eyes--which is what really counts, isn't it? Iz
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Moore Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer? > > > So if two teenagers are having sexual relations, are they married in > God's viewpoint? I think not if they have not made a lifetime > commitment to each other before God. But if they have I think they are > married in God's eyes. > > What if a single man and woman are the only inhabitants on a deserted island > and decide to marry each other for life? Does God hold it against > them that > they have no civil ceremony or witnesses? I think not. In fact, there > is no > model of a marriage ceremony in the Bible, which makes me think that > is pretty unimportant--it's the commitment to each other before God > that matters, both before and after the marriage, and that makes it a > real marriage IMO. And no "takiebackies". FWIW, iz cd: Sister Izzy I believe that these two would still have to make the vows before God-if not it's just fornication -There was no Minister for Adam and Eve's marriage in the Garden but they committed their lives to each other -as they were together for life.The vows are our covenant with spouse and God.In the Torah there were signs for a covenant such as piling up stones-later wittiness's were used as a way of offering proof of the vows which validate the marrage.I ,in effect, told my wife upon marriage-if you give yourself to me then I will provide/protect and love you till death-others wittiness this promise in case I attempt to break it-in the torah there were stiff penalties for doing so-such penalties exist today. > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.

