DAVEH: Kinda leaves you speechless, eh Perry! ;-)
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Yet more arrogant drivel.
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Mur says: I have a sense of DaveH that
he ain't got it in 'em
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:51:05 -0800
DAVEH: Forgive me for intruding on your reply to Lance, Perry. But
it seems appropriate for me to comment on your public comments
regarding me.
*the principle I was taught is that when you offend someone you
apologize...even if you didn't mean to, even if you were joking, even
if you think they are faking offense, apologizing is the right thing
to do. Izzy got it. Kevin got it. Evidently arrogant people don't get
it. *
DAVEH: If Kevin and other TTers *get it*, then why do they continue
to offend LDS people by waving (both figuratively and literally)
their underwear in their faces, Perry? Evidently some of the
street preachers really don't *get it*.
*I have not generally maligned the man.*
DAVEH: Of course not, Perry. Let's see.....Who was it that
suggested I am Satan's messenger boy? :-\
* It is that has insulted most all on this forum by arrogantly
stating that "he is not here to learn the truth, he is here to learn
what protestants believe".*
DAVEH: Yes, it can be safely said that I am here to learn what
Protestants *believe*....Apparently some Protestants (and non-Ps for
that matter) *believe* it is OK to live by a double standard. I can
see why that would offend those TTers.....it's tough being a
hypocrite and having this pointed out, eh Perry.
*he has said he is here to learn, but after being told over and over,
he fails to learn.*
DAVEH: I respectfully disagree with your conclusion, Perry. You and
a few other TTers have taught me well, and I feel it is not only my
right, but also my duty to repay you whenever the opportunity
presents itself. That's exactly why I respond as I do. If you don't
quite understand what I am saying, ask yourself why I respond to most
other TTers so much differently than I do you and a few other's who
feel justified in attacking my beliefs. If you don't have a clue,
ask some of the other TTers who don't have a beam in their eye.
*he has said he is not here to teach, then has proselytized us with
his satan inspired faith*
DAVEH: Of course you.....*have not generally maligned the
man*....., 'ave you, Perry.
*when they have been offended, he has rationalized his behavior,
while belittling the offended.*
DAVEH: ??? You don't enjoy being belittled, Perry? Gosh....for a
guy who enjoys dishing it out, you sure get awfully sensitive when
the shoe is on the other foot. I thought a guy who likes to play
hardball would be a little less whiny when he is taking more strikes
than hits.
*When claims are made about his behavior, his memory is bad, but when
he wants to make claims against others, his memory is restored. *
DAVEH: LOL.....Look at the logic of what you are saying, Perry.
Yes, my memory is fully restored when I can search for and post the
exact quotes to back up my claims, which is something you apparently
feel no need to do. Why do you think it is OK to make a (false)
claim and then expect it to stand with absolutely no evidence? If
you want to accuse somebody of something, you'd better be able to
back it up with evidence or eat crow, Perry.
*And, it was HE who changed the subject line of the posts in question
to "Izzies Sexual Experiences".*
DAVEH: Caught your attention, didn't it! :-[
It simply amazes me that some TTers can post all kinds of
demeaning stuff about me or my beliefs and you simply turn a blind
eye to it. Maybe that's because you participate in such, and fail to
recognize it when others do it.
/* He has taken the words of others and intentionally twisted them to
mean something else, then posted them.*/
DAVEH: LOL......In case you haven't figured it out yet,
Perry....I'm not one to cry to the moderator (not that it would do
much good in this Forum) about other's picking on me, but rather I
merely do what you suggested above. Was it Izzy that at one time
suggested, /what's good for the goose is good for the gander/?
That's right.....I'll admit to reworking the words of some TTers and
reposting them to point out their hypocrisy. Are you feeling a
twinge of guilt over that, Perry? FWIW.....I don't....not one iota.
/*He is the one who twisted Dean's call for moderation, to suggesting
that I might know something of Izzies sexual experiences. HE is the
one with the perverse mind. HE is the one who does not know where to
draw the line on his so-called humor. And HIS response is an arrogant
rationalaztion that it is okay for him to say these things, and for
us to be opffended?
*/Perry's subsequent revision: "and for us to be opffended" should
be "_/*but not for us to be offended*/_"
DAVEH: Ask yourself who is really offended by what I posted,
Perry. I suggest that it is the same ones who will be offended by
this post....the hypocrites of TT.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Lance, *the principle I was taught is that when you offend someone
you apologize...even if you didn't mean to, even if you were joking,
even if you think they are faking offense, apologizing is the right
thing to do. Izzy got it. Kevin got it. Evidently arrogant people
don't get it. *
While I have railed heavily against Dave's faith, *I have not
generally maligned the man.* But, having been given this door of
opportunity, let me say how I really feel...
It is not that Dave is a mormon. That is an unfortunate coincidence.
It is that he has behaved arrogantly.* It is that has insulted most
all on this forum by arrogantly stating that "he is not here to
learn the truth, he is here to learn what protestants believe".* It
is that *he has said he is here to learn, but after being told over
and over, he fails to learn.* It is that *he has said he is not here
to teach, then has proselytized us with his satan inspired faith*.
It is that he levies his often tasteless humor on others, but *when
they have been offended, he has rationalized his behavior, while
belittling the offended.* /* He has taken the words of others and
intentionally twisted them to mean something else, then posted
them.*/ *When claims are made about his behavior, his memory is bad,
but when he wants to make claims against others, his memory is
restored. *
*And, it was HE who changed the subject line of the posts in
question to "Izzies Sexual Experiences".* /*He is the one who
twisted Dean's call for moderation, to suggesting that I might know
something of Izzies sexual experiences. HE is the one with the
perverse mind. HE is the one who does not know where to draw the
line on his so-called humor. And HIS response is an arrogant
rationalaztion that it is okay for him to say these things, and for
us to be opffended?*/ Back off, Elder Muir!
Perry
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [TruthTalk] Charles Perry Lock says 'A totally arrogant
and insensitive reply, IMO' of Dave Hansen
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:53:48 -0500
I have a sense of DaveH that he ain't got it in 'em but, should
anyone's door need showin' up at ...well...it's pretty obvious to
me who they'd be. He's been spoken to and about with ill intent
pretty much daily. As Tom Snyder used to say of people who behave
like you guys have..'go to a mirror, look into it and, call
yourself...(guess)
IMO Perry, you're doing this more because he's a Mormon than
because of what he purportedly meant by what he said.
Iz rather graciously acknowledged her own participation and,
requested that you let this go. Why not do that, Perry?
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