RE: [TruthTalk] Blaine Autumn equinox

Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:14:57 -0800

Joe was an Occultist who sacrificed animals

Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The angel appeared on September 22 every year four years in a row.  None of the other dates corresponded to Trumpets.
 
It had more to do with being a observer of SIGNS in the heavens. Jo was an Astrologer who did all his "work" on days of Occult and Astrologic significance
Pagans observe the "holy day" of the Autumn Equinox on the date in 1827 also.  The "angel" of light had appeared on the night of the Autumnal equinox, between midnight and dawn--hours auspicious for a magical invocation
 
In what follows most Mormons will not find a story with which they are familiar. Instead, they will discover that Joseph Smith evidently participated extensively in magical pursuits and that he shared with others of his contemporaries a magic world view of the world. For myself, I have found that the 'official version' of early Mormon history is sometimes incomplete in its presentation and evaluation of evidence, and therefore inaccurate in certain respects." (Early Mormonism and the Magic World View, Introduction, Quinn pages xx-xxi)

In discussing the discovery of the Book of Mormon, Quinn notes that Smith prayed to be guided to the plates for three years in succession on the autumnal equinox. On September 21, 1823, for example, Smith prayed under the full moon on a Sunday night that was ruled by his own ruling planet, Jupiter. The hours of his prayer and vision were ruled by planets and the moon, making the time particularly propitious for the summoning of and communing with a good spirit. (Smith also owned a talisman which had the magic seal of Jupiter and the Latin words "Confirmo O Deus potentissimus" on one side, and the astrological symbol for Jupiter, Jupiter's magic number (136), and a magic table in Hebrew lettering that added up to 136 on the other side.)
Review of Early Mormonism and the Magic World View D. MICHAEL QUINN http://www.signaturebooks.com/reviews/magic.htm
 
Joseph Smith, jun. was born December 23, 1805 during the first Decan of Capricorn whose ruling planet is Jupiter, which is also the governing planet for the year 1805.
Dr. Durham director of the LDS Institute of Religion at the University of Utah as well as president of the Mormon History Association "...The purpose of the Table of Jupiter is talismanic magic [sic] was to be able to call upon the celestial intelligences assigned to the particular talisman to assist one in all endeavors. The names of the deities... who could be invoked by the Table were always written on the tailsman or represented by various numbers; three such names were written on Joseph Smith's talisman... Abbah, Father; El Ab, Father is God; and Josiphiel, Johovah speaks for God... When properly invoked, with Jupiter being very powerful and ruling in the heavens, these intelligences by the power of ancient magic guaranteed to the possessor of this tailsman to gain of riches and favor and power and love and peace and to confirm honors and dignities and councils. Tailsmanic magic further declared that any one who worked skillfully with this Jupiter table would obtain the power of stimulating anyone to offer their love to the possessor of the talisman..."
 
Dabbling in the occult, Smith apprenticed with a man described as "a peripatetic magician, conjurer and fortuneteller," from whom he learned the era's folk concepts of crystal gazing, divining rods, seer stones, and rituals associated with treasure hunting. He advised others in their pursuits, once instructing a neighbor he could locate buried money on his property by slitting the throat of a black sheep and leading it in a circle on the land. Increasingly ridiculed as a necromancer and money digger, Smith kept details of his continuing revelations to himself, confiding only in his parents, siblings, and, by early 1827, in young Emma Hale, with whom he had eloped. All the while he patiently awaited an order from the angel Moroni that it was time to retrieve the golden book.
It was an auspicious night for communing with spirits, according to the astrological handbooks of the day. "Jews throughout the world celebrated the Feast of Trumpets, which initiates the Days of Awe," or Rosh Hashanah, academic journals later noted in an attempt to seek association between Smith and Judaism. Almanacs published near Smith's home reported the date was "both the autumnal equinox and a new moon, an excellent time to commence new projects." A publication in nearby Canandaigua reported "the moon was also in Libra, when one should 'Delve and Dig.' "
The twenty-one-year-old Smith dressed himself in black, then borrowed a black horse and sleigh for the ride to the hill of Cumorah. He had been "commanded to go on the 22d day of September 1827 at 2 o'clock," Smith's sister later wrote.
American Massacre: The Tragedy At Mountain Meadows, September 1857 Denton
http://www.northshire.com/siteinfo/bookinfo/0-375-72636-5/0/
 
NOTE The Greater Key of Solomon, page 122, says that "Sometimes white animals are sacrificed to the good Spirits and black to the evil."
 Richard L. Anderson Brigham Young University Studies, Spring 1970,  page 294 The  Professor quotes the following from M. Wilford Poulson's notes of a conversation with Wallace Miner: "I once asked Stafford if Smith did steal a sheep from him. He said no, not exactly. He said, he did miss a black sheep, but soon Joseph came and admitted he took it for sacrifice but he was willing to work for it. He made wooden sap buckets to fully pay for it."
C. R. Stafford testified concerning the same incident: "Jo Smith, the prophet, told my uncle, William Stafford, he wanted a fat, black sheep. He said he wanted to cut its throat and make it walk in a circle three times around and it would prevent a pot of money from leaving." (Naked Truths About Mormonism, January 1888, page 3)
 
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You forgot to put LOL after your comment--surely you were jesting!!  :>)
The angel appeared on September 22 every year four years in a row.  None of the other dates corresponded to Trumpets.
 
Hey did you know the appearance of Elijah to JS and Oliver C. was on 16 Nisan?  It was The Day of the Lord--he was crucified on Friday, 14 Nisan.  That combination happens very seldom.   The Jews have been predicting Elijah's appearance on the
Passover (14 Nisan) for centuries--16 Nisan is very close, but not right on..  If the devil was in it, as you say, would he not have used 14 Nisan instead of 16 Nisan? 
Blaine
 
In a message dated 12/5/2005 12:55:47 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The devil knew, Blaine.  He’s such a cunning fake. iz
 
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----- Original Message -----
BTW, I am partially inclined to agree with you that all has not been fulfilled--the gold plates were first delivered to the Prophet JS on the day of the Feast of Trumpets.  JS never pointed this out--not sure he even knew it--but it is true.  Check it out--September 22, 1827.  
 

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