On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:42:37 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Even the one 'infallible interpreter' on TT has taken issue with your Scriptural interpretation(s) on occasion(s).
Many have taken exception to your non-personalist hermeneutic.
 
What in the world is this? If we are to communicate Lance, you will have to use plain-speak
 
Many take exception to your sacred/secular dichotomy.
 
And what is this?  Separating the holy from the profane? Being unwilling to call the world sacred in the face
of your belief that it was all assumed in Christ?
 
Many take exception over your dualism/gnosticism.
 
I don't have a "gnosticism" What I do have is a "walking after the Spirit" and not fulfilling the lusts of the flesh
Faulty exegesis here Lance.
 
Many take exception to your  unthinking criticisms of persons whom God holds dear.
(Calvin, Barth, Lewis, Tolkien & BOB DYLAN) (Maybe just you and me on this one, Gary)
 
God holds the whole unbelieving world "dear" for that matter (John 3:16) - but when they judge themselves unworthy of eternal life they exclude themselves from his Promises.  The ones who make it are those who do His will and who
speak as the "oracles of God"
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Sent: December 08, 2005 07:23
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Needs to Check Archives

Lance, it may be wise for you to check the archives before making these wild accusations.
It's not me doing the painting.  It is you who have me in a corner of your mind labelled "fundamentalist"
And you ascribe to me all of the beliefs in your "fundamentalist" card file. 
As per the issue of who goes to hell I have always said the same thing which is "that is not my call"
But you have yet to hear me - do I need a soapbox and bullhorn?  Oh well!!  Nothing new under the sun is there....
Far be it for me to try and tell you anything ... even when it comes to what I personally believe.
 
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:11:05 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
WATCH BELOW AS JUDY ASSISTS LANCE IN THE ART OF INTERPRETATION
OK Judy! Having painted yourself in a corner, just make yourself comfortable. I'll watch your posts in future for use of the word 'HELL'.  
 
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 06:44:00 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Judy said'For the record, I don't believe that C. S. Lewis actually knew the Lord'
 
Lance, having made an incorrect leap in logic,due to a  belief that Judy believed that persons who die while not knowing the Lord (Lewis is dead), go to hell, thought she'd so consigned him. I suspect that the operative word herein is 'consigned'. Let me then remove this word and, ask Judy the following questions:   
 
1. Do you stand by your assessment that csl did not 'know' (define please) the Lord?
 
Yes I do and if you are scandalized by CSL Lance, I would say the same about Augustine, Athanasius and Calvin who called himself an "Augustinian theologian"  ... They were not following the example Christ left for us either by
hunting down and killing heretics. Do you think the "culture of their day" will excuse them?  I can't imagine having to stand in front of the Lord in that day and say "But Lord, I hunted down and killed all of these heretics in your name" (as per Matt 7:21) Tell me, is this doing the will of the Father?  Is this following Jesus' example?  Will He say "Well done thou good and faithful servant?"
 
2. Should you be correct then, WHERE IS CSL? (employ some biblical interpretation, please)
 
CSL has gone to spend eternity with the one he served and the Lord Himself will make that determination by either accepting or rejecting him on that day. 
 
thanks,  Lance
 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)
 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)
 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)

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