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Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 4:41
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New
Subject-A&E
So they were created one of two ways. They were
either eternal with the ability to fall through disobedience -
OR they were created like us which is mortal
and dying as we live with access to the tree of
life?
More added words: you are setting up a strawman, Judy. Go back to what
has been said and see the distinction.
Why would a God of life in whom there is no darkness
or shadow of turning create a dying people?
He did not create a "dying people."
A&E chose death in
disobedience.
Adam and Eve chose disobedience, death being the consequence of their
actions: "The wages of sin is death ... "
Bill
Me thinks you are putting words in his mouth,
Judy. Had they have continued to eat of the tree of life, they would not
have died, their mortality being the potential to
die in the absence of the sustenance supplied by the tree of life:
"'And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and
eat, and live forever' -- so the LORD God banished him from the Garden . .
."
Bill
JD your dylexia has kicked in again. We who
are born through procreation are created in the "image" of
the
first Adam. They were here first
already.... and the tree of life is what they were encouraged to eat
from. to
say they were walking in death right then is pure
unwarranted speculation; why would a God og life create them
in death?
Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created just
like us -- which includes the fact that they were created
"mortal," hence, the The Tree of Life , in the
garden.
jd -----Original Message----- From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Fri, 09 Dec
2005 00:27:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New
Subject-A&E
So Cain and Abel were children
# 1 and #2. and when
Cain killed Able -- who was he afraid of -- I
mean, where did those people come from? I personally
believe that Adam and Eve were not the only people created.
But that is not a popular opinion. If we go with
the standard opin -- Cain was afraid of his own
people!!!!
jd
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TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:20:07
EST Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-A&E
In a message dated 12/8/2005 8:27:46 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But why did they not have children until they
were 1) changed into mortal beings
I hate to tell you this B but the children generally come
NINE Months AFTER the FACT!
Blainerb: Hmm, let's see, chapter three of Genesis
ends with the couple being driven out of the paradisiacal garden, then chapter 4 begins as
follows:
"And Adam knew Eve his wife, and she
conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the
Lord."
Sounds like the fun began AFTER leaving the
garden!!!! But no timetable is given.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Blainerb: Ha! I
agree, it was a good commandment! But why did they
not have children until they were 1) changed into mortal beings, and
2) forced out of the garden?
In a message dated 12/8/2005 7:46:18 P.M. Mountain Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I wasn't there Blaine.
If you don't like it, complain to God. He ordered it, not
me. I do, however, think it was a great idea. One of
the easiest commands to keep. ;-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you saying Adam and Eve were capable of having sex
prior to the Fall?? What sacrilege is
this?? :>)
Blainerb
In a message dated 12/8/2005 6:48:37 P.M. Mountain Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think you might have missed
something, Blaine. There is no reason to think that Judy
would not have been here if there had been no fall. The
command to "Be fruitful and multiply" came prior to the
fall. See Genesis 1:28. Terry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Blainerb: You
seem to be forgetting how wonderful you as a daughter of God
are, Judy. Without Adam and Eve's partaking of the forbidden fruit, none of
us including your wonderful self would even
be here--Adam and Eve would just be lounging around in
their perfect little paradise, never knowing good from evil
and not even caring. But they would be eternally
pure and goody-good righteous... Is that what you
think the Lord really wanted?
In a message dated 12/8/2005 3:41:54 A.M. Mountain
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The trees in the garden
DaveH are the two
kinds of wisdom. The tree of life is "pure,
peaceable, and full of good fruit" and this is the tree
God wanted His creation to eat from. The other tree
- the one the serpent was promoting - is earthly, sensual,
and demonic. So take your pick. One leads to
life and the other to death.
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John
2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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