Wake up and smell the coffee, Iz. I desire no such thing. Your response, similar to Kevin's response, is just a cry of fantasy (Say it ain't so Joe!). Should you wish to prepare grandchildren for the 'new world (order)' then begin to acquaint yourself with reality. Go to the library and pick up 'China Inc.' by Ted Fishman.

How many manufacturing jobs were added over the same time span? You live in a knowledge-based economy. You are not turning out many younger women to fill the jobs in this sector. As you know Iz, guys and a lost cause when it comes to education.


----- Original Message ----- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: December 10, 2005 09:22
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas



By your logic, Lance, we should hope for the whole world to be lost so that
we have more people to "share the gospel with"???  And how are we going to
do that if words like "Christ" and "Christmas" are verboten?????

PS You forgot to mention the manufacturing jobs that were added (not in your
stats).  Iz

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas

Upset? No!  Why? USA is a secular republic NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION! More
pagans means more people with whom to share/live the gospel.

What then ought one to be taking note of? How 'bout China/India. They,
Terry, are the ones suppling the mdse for the aforementioned stores. No more

'made in the USA! (3 million manufacturing jobs lost since 2003 and many,
many more to come).

----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: December 10, 2005 08:20
Subject: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas



We have been watching the news lately, plus getting some stuff by e-mail,
and it seems that the world we once knew is no longer to be found. It is
bad enough when all the big merchants, such as Wal Mart, Sears, Target and

home depot stop advertising Christmas sales and start advertising "Holiday

sales".  When you walk in the stores you are greeted by salespeople with
"Happy Holidays" or "Seasons greetings".  Target stores went so far as to
run the Salvation army off it's property.  No buckets or bell ringers
there anymore.
This sounds like where the preachers and banners proclaiming Christ should

be, but then you must remember that the reason these stores are there is
not to proclaim Christ, but to make money.  If they mentioned Christ mas,
it would only be lip service.

Besides that, we need to get the beam out of our own eye before we try to
remove the speck from their's.  It seems that since Christmas falls on
Sunday this year, that many churches will not have services "So that
people can spend time with their families". That, to me, is soooo stupid.

Why not take the family to church?  What am I missing here?
The words of Jesus keep running through my mind.  "If you do not love me
more than mother or father, sister or brother (Family), you cannot be
Mine.

Do the rest of you get worked up or nauseous over this?  Is there
something here I don't see?  Am I too critical?  Your thoughts?
Terry
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