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I would expect Satan to teach his people to shun the cross...it is the
very instrument of his defeat.
DAVEH: Really? As
I see it, the cross was the most successful tool Satan could devise to torture
and kill our beloved Lord. Everything else he tried failed....but, the
cross did the job.
Only because He willingly layed His life
down. If He had not done that nothing could have killed Him, the
Lord of Life. ad there would
have been no resurrection without a death. Satan didn't know what he was
doing - he acted in ignorance
which must have been a blow to his pride (1 Cor 2:6-8)
judyt
The resurrection
was the defeat of death....and Satan. Removing the guarded stone
blocking the entrance, and rising from the tomb was the symbol of Satan's
defeat, Perry. Perhaps you should consider hanging a millstone about
your neck......
How do you see it that Jesus and the
Apostles glorified the cross? Did they idolize it, and turn it
into jewelery? Was it displayed on their edifices? Or are
those examples simply Christian traditions that lay no claim to Biblical
validity? Biblical references would be appreciated.
Charles
Perry Locke wrote:
I hope you don't mind me intruding on your intrusion. I would
expect Satan to teach his people to shun the cross...it is the very
instrument of his defeat. Besides, Christ himself used the cross as a
symbol, as did the Apostles. If it is good enough for them, it is good
enough for me. And, it is a frequent reminder of the tremendous sacrifice
Jesus paid for our sins. I just do not think of that when I see a beehive.
Perry
*/What does the CROSS "REPRESENT"/*
DAVEH: I hope you don't mind me intruding on your discussion
with Blaine, Kevin. This topic is of particular interest to me, as
I've seen quite a few crosses at the sides of highways I travel.
Quite often, they indicate places where people have died, or in the case
of cemeteries.....where they are buried...........
..........In the past couple thousand years, many
Christians have idolized the cross to depict the death of Jesus.........
.......which to me seems rather bizarre to me....if not
macabre. Some Christians have taken to wearing jewelery, and
displaying crosses in their abodes and places of worship.........
.........As I see it, those crosses depict the *cruel
tool* used to bring not only much pain and suffering to our beloved
Savior, but also the device that was used by God's enemies to kill our
Lord. This inhumane instrument was designed not only to kill God's
children, but at the same time to punitively torture them in a humiliating
and degrading way. It always amazes me that some Christians would
have such an affinity to such a devilish device that brings pain,
suffering and death to the minds of many who see it, and especially to
those who were victims of it.
I'm curious as to how
you would feel about something similar, Kevin. I don't know if you
have any children, but for the sake of this discussion let's assume you
do. If your enemy were to maliciously use a knife to torture your
daughter for a couple days to the point that the wounds killed her, would
you be predisposed to wear a piece of jewelry on a chain around your neck
in the form of a knife to remind you of what the guy did to your
daughter? And, how would you feel if you drove by a gun & knife
store, and saw a sign depicting knives that looked similar to the one that
killed your daughter......Would it bring back fond memories?
LDS folks appreciate the dying sacrifice of our Lord
in our behalf. But we don't glorify the tool that killed him.
It sickens me to think of man's inhumanity that would bring such pain,
suffering and death to one who did not deserve it. Nor do we
idolize the cross as do so many others. Rather, we prefer to
remember his sacrifice and glorify his Father---not the cross--- for the
resurrection of his Son.
FWIW.....We have a large
Christian church near us that a few years ago put 3 large prominent
crosses on their building that are lit up at night with blue lights that
are very noticeable to the cars passing by on the freeway........
http://www.rollinghills.org/about_us/campus/index.cfm
.........This picture really doesn't show them very well compared
to the cars on the freeway, as it is taken from the wrong angle and at
quite a distance. I have sometimes wondered if Jesus were to travel
that road, what would he think if he were to pass such an edifice that
memorializes his death in such a manner. I wouldn't be surprised if
he would wince at such a sight. And......It bothers me to
think that some would pain him in such a callous way.
Kevin
Deegan wrote:
Exactly they bought into the counterfeit.
*How art thou _fallen from heaven_, O Lucifer, son of the morning!
how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For
thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will _exalt
my throne above the stars_ of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the
congregation, in the sides of the north:...*
*Yet thou shalt be
brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.*
*North Star*,
which represents *Jesus Christ. *
*/
What does the CROSS
"REPRESENT" Blaine?
/*
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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