You say the words Lance but your actions say you are a double-minded man.  If you believed in the authority of
God's Word then it would be impossible for you ATST to endorse Barth/Torrance, and other post modern humanistic theologians.
 
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:17:05 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Judy: I ,Myownself believe in the AUTHORITY OF GOD'S WORD. I DO NOT, HOWEVER, BELIEVE THAT THE SIMPLE CITATION OF SCRIPTRE BY YOU OR, BY ANYONE OF THEIR CHOOSING ALWAYS SETTLES THE 'MATTER AT HAND'. IF Y'ALL DO THEN, MORE POWER TO YA.   
 
Lance, I honestly do not know what you see or what you believe other than the theologians
you approve and a list of other professing Christians who are orthodox and see things similarly.
As for David, Kevin, Izzy, Terry, Dean et al.  We may not get every detail exact but so far as I can
tell we do agree about what is important - and that is the authority of God's Word.
 
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:43:57 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
God can always speak through His Word and it does not return void. On the other matter, as you already know, you, David and I see things somewhat differently. It may indeed be due to my own poor communication skills.
 
 
I don't agree but then I'm sure this is no news to you.
When I cite scripture - you either receive it by faith as God's Word or you read it as a dead letter
depending on what you have going on in your own heart.  Truth is apprehended by faith whereas
IMO you are more attuned to human reason.
 
 
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:18:48 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
YOUR OPINIONS re: the MEANING OF THE SCRIPTURES YOU CITE ARE WHAT, IMO, I AND OTHERS
READ MOST OF THE TIME. I can live with that. Can you?
 
This list is called Truth Talk Lance. It is not all about your opinions or me.
 
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:51:53 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Let me attempt something, Judy. WITH WHAT FREQUENCY THEN, DO YOU EXHIBIT THIS 'TRUE HIMILITY'?
 
True humility Lance is saying what God says about a situation or subject; personal opinion, even
while grovelling while saying it is inverted pride.  When a preacher gets out there with a megaphone
and accurately speaks the oracles of God .. that is true humility.  Or of one speaks them to a friend in
private - this is also laying down their own life.  Because God's Word is that around which the battle
rages.
 
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:33:54 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
There are two on TT who regularly write reflecting humility. I'm suspect of one of them but, that's because I don't, perhaps. 

 
I see.  Is this then the sin of the parents, or the world, or the parson with low esteem?
How would this condition add to or subtract from one's ability to do what Jesus suggests in the sermon on the mount?  I am too lazy to look it up but it seems to me that He came to town meek and lowly, riding on a colt.  Possibly as an example to us?
To be quite honest, I do not see low esteem as a problem on TT.  Do you?
Terry


 Judy Taylor wrote:
Self rejection happens when children are either rejected by parents or have overly critical parents. When
one is raised in an unloving atmosphere they tend to accept the lie that this is because they are unlovable making
it difficult to understand or receive the love of God.  
 
The world adds to the problem with unrealistic standards especially in the area of perfection and body image -
thinness for women and Gk perfection for men and too many times this becomes a graven image or idol and
people reject themselves when they don't measure up rather than giving thanks for being fearfully and wonderfully
made.
 
 
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:14:35 -0600 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Could you explain what you mean by self rejection?

Judy Taylor wrote:
Hi Terry,
I don't know that any of us would say that they are "self satisfied" in fact not even Paul himself said that.
What he did say is that he didn't know of any sin but that did not mean he was justified completely before
the Lord.  I would say the same.  At this point in my walk I see self rejection just as sinful as the ignorance
that comes with pride... either way it is all self, self, self, self.  judyt
 

 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)

 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)
 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)
 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)
 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)
 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)

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