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that is false. I ask of those with whom others has disagreed, either mildly or
vehemently, does that one believe your theology to have been 'fancy'? I WOULD
SAY SO, YES!
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Sent: December 15, 2005 06:15
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cd: You are right on the money sister-hang in there:-)
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Sent: 12/14/2005 2:47:22 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and
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Then it is past time to do some more figuring Lance
because you have missed the boat so to speak.
I am not about trying to explain God which is the
Church Father/theologian forte. If He does not illumine
His Word to you - then there is nothing I could say
or do that would help.
Hey out there!! Does anyone other than Lance think that I am a "FANCY THEOLOGIAN?" or is
this another
example of Lance's vivid imagination and
fanciful thinking. judyt
Funny thing, Judy, I've always though of you
as your own 'FANCY THEOLOGIAN'. Over time one cannot
but note that others have thought similarly. The 'Judy theology' is
generally well researched and, on the whole, readable.
And I've been attempting to say to you
that there is such a thing as objective truth a light that shines
into the darknes of the unregenerate
human heart which is the Word of the Living God untainted
and
unfiltered through human reason and/or
fancy theologians .... which, when we
choose to abide therein
will make us
free.
That, Judy, is what I've been attempting
to say, apparently with minimal success.
Every deceived person believes
themselves to be "in the truth"
Deceived people don't know they are
deceived - this is the nature of the beast.
I, for one, have no difficulty at all
criticizing the'deceived' as you put it, Judy.
The difficulty is that some who are,
in reality deceived, believe themselves to be 'in the truth' do
they not?
Meaning that all evangelism and
preaching the gospel should cease because we can not
be
critical of anyones beliefs because
this is criticizing them personally?? IOW let the
deceived
stay captive to the devil. Lord
forbid that we should offend anyone. Is Jesus a stumbling
stone
and a rock of offense ... or has he now
become fashionable in his new "living" form?
You really don't
get it do you? If I were to criticize your beliefs then, I am
criticizing your person
OK so we should not criticize
beliefs.
But criticizing the person is OK in your
book
Good ol Self Refutin Lance...
Kevin, this so-called
anti-Mormon kick you're on seems to be about all you've got
goin' for ya..
Judy Taylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You really don't get it do you? If I were
to criticize your beliefs then, I am criticizing your
person
No you wouldn't be because
you don't know my person. What you are talking about
is religious/racial bigotry
which is a misnomer. It is
possible to love the person and reject their belief.
God did it when he sent Jesus
Jesus did it when he hung
on the cross - and we can do it as His Ambassadors in a
world full of sin and strife.
You really don't get it do you? If I
were to criticize your beliefs then, I am criticizing your
person and, vice versa. Kevin et al do the same with the
Mormons.
I've asked you previously. I shall ask
you once again. Is there a great gulf between who you are
and what you say (believe)?
Now if you had said
Joseph Smith & Brigham Young your observation may
have carried some weight
Lance. However,
I've yet to see Kevin comment on Blaine or DaveH
personally, it's their false belief system
he takes
issue with and in doing this
he confronts them with their own
contradictions.
OR YOUR OPINIONS OF BLAINE &
DAVEH THAT'S CALLED ANTI MORMONISM!! Come to think of
it, Kevin,
this so-called anti-Mormon kick
you're on seems to be about all you've got goin' for
ya..
This list is called Truth
Talk Lance. It is not all about your opinions
or me.
OR Lance's opinions OF you and others!
This list is called Truth
Talk Lance. It is not all about your opinions
or me.
Let me attempt something,
Judy. WITH WHAT FREQUENCY THEN, DO YOU EXHIBIT
THIS 'TRUE HIMILITY'?
True humility Lance is
saying what God says about a situation or
subject; personal opinion, even
while grovelling while
saying it is inverted pride. When a
preacher gets out there with a
megaphone
and accurately speaks
the oracles of God .. that is true
humility. Or of one speaks them to a
friend in
private - this is also
laying down their own life. Because God's
Word is that around which the
battle
rages.
There are two on TT who
regularly write reflecting humility. I'm suspect
of one of them but, that's because I don't,
perhaps.
I
see. Is this then the sin of the parents,
or the world, or the parson with low
esteem?
How would this condition add to or
subtract from one's ability to do what Jesus
suggests in the sermon on the mount? I am
too lazy to look it up but it seems to me that
He came to town meek and lowly, riding on a
colt. Possibly as an example to us?
To
be quite honest, I do not see low esteem as a
problem on TT. Do
you?
Terry
Judy Taylor
wrote:
Self rejection
happens when children are either rejected
by parents or have overly critical parents.
When
one is raised in
an unloving atmosphere they tend to accept the
lie that this is because they are unlovable
making
it difficult to
understand or receive the love of
God.
The world adds to the
problem with unrealistic standards especially in
the area of perfection and body image -
thinness for women and
Gk perfection for men and too many times this
becomes a
graven image or idol
and
people reject
themselves when they don't measure up rather
than giving thanks for being fearfully and wonderfully
made.
Could you explain what you mean by self
rejection?
Judy Taylor wrote:
Hi Terry,
I don't know that any
of us would say that they are "self satisfied"
in fact not even Paul himself said
that.
What he did say is that
he didn't know of any sin but that did not mean
he was justified completely before
the Lord. I would
say the same. At this point in my walk I
see self rejection just as sinful as the
ignorance
that comes with
pride... either way it is all self, self, self,
self. judyt
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep
His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John
2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep
His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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