Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath

Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:29:27 -0800

 
 
 
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Weren't we talking about holy day obsevances?   You have added a traditional point of view to the text, which is fine, but it is a tradition I do not accept.   Paul is dealing with Jewish issues in Romans 14, which would include the Sabbath.   That opinion is a tradition as well.  But I believe the context supports the point since the Jews are clearly a major consideration of Paul.   But thanks for you comments.
 
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cd: Actually 14:1-At the start of the Chapter Paul is speaking of those of the faith and continues dealing with this faith based problem of how to judge or not judge a brother by his eating habits-This is not for the Jews but the church. Paul was a missionary to the Gentiles also.Here are some additional passages to view in regards of the Sabbath.
 
(1) Rev.12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the women, and to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
John a Christian is identified here as (a) One that knows Jesus and (b) one who keeps Gods commandment's. These two identifying characteristics cannot be separated and one still remain a Christian. 
 
(2)  Matt. 24:20 But pray ye that you flight be not in the winter,neither on the Sabbath day. Matt 24:3 shown that Jesus is answering questions related to a future event and in verse 20, Jesus is identifying the Sabbath as the Jewish Sabbath and showing it to be in effect for that future time period. Isaiah 66 show the Sabbath to be a future event that we are to keep in heaven.
 
(3) I would like to deal with the Law as related to the church but I think we should first identify if a Christian should even keep the law-then deal with the law's aspects. Matt.19:17 ...but if thou will enter into life keep the commandments. And in verse 18 Jesus identifies which commandments-Gods commandments.
 
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From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cd: John Rom.14 again is speaking of eating certain food on feast days called Holy Days and to not judge you brother for eating certain foods -read the entire verse and tell me how many times food, or eating,or drinking is mention in that chapter? It is mentioned 19 times John-now tell me what does the Sabbath (sat) have to do with eating?Yet eating has a important role in the Feasts of Isreal.Use logic and the answer will come.
 
 
 
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Saturday Sabbath

Romans 14 puts to an end this argument.
 
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"Over one hundred years ago the Catholic Mirror ran a series of articles discussing the right of the Protestant churches to worship on Sunday. The articles stressed that unless one was willing to accept the authority of the Catholic Church to designate the day of worship, the Christian should observe Saturday. Those articles are presented here in their entirety."

 

http://www.cbcg.org/rome's_challenge.htm

 

 

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