RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC

[ShieldsFamily]

Guilty as charged!!! (Rush is Right!) J  Actually I only listen to him if I’m in the car.  But my older son, Scot, always wants me to renew his EIB membership every year as a birthday present.  That way he can listen to Rush every night in half the time, and watch him on the Ditto-Cam. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 4:49 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC   How could you stand him for so long?  I weaken and listen sporadically only in times of crisis just to see what his spin is but he is so full of himself (even if it is tongue in cheek) that I can't stand much of it and lately haven't listened to him at all.  How can you be so sure Iz is a dittohead??.   On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 05:33:34 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Judy: My 'sureness' stops short of certainty. I listened to Rush for over 10 years. Even 'card filers' recognize 'boxes', Judy. From: Judy Taylor   What makes you so sure that Iz's definition and Rush Limbaughs are one and the same Lance?  Rush says he is a Christian but I don't believe he is the same kind as Iz. In fact I think he says his dad was more devoted about it than he. I'm also surprised that you would be talking about boxes - Am I seeing things?  Lance the consummate card filer???   On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:26:13 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: YOUR (Rush Limbaugh's) definition of liberal is of little interest to God, Iz. Whether this 'wave' you're on the crest of is one of your own creation or God's He alone knows. When YOU assign people to boxes, politically/spiritually, you both SOUND and, ARE presumptuous. Cockyness doesn't become you, Iz!.   From: ShieldsFamily   According to my definition of liberal, you are, indeed.  What do YOU call a liberal??? I definitely fill my life with fellow Believers. They aren’t full of “religious spirits” of denominationalism.  I’ve been on the crest of the wave of the move of the Holy Spirit since the 1970’s by His mercy, and without knowing anything about the latest cutting-edge intellectual theological books.    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir   FTR Iz, I'm neither RCC nor liberal. God, through His Spirit, is at work in/with both. It'd appear that a time of judgment for your nation is at hand so, do align yourself with God's people whereever you find them. When you close yourself off, through unduly harsh political assessments and, a religious spirit, you may fail to note and, participate in, what God is doing.  ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 24, 2005 19:38 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC   I didn’t state it to impress you.  I was answering your question.  You are free to do as you please, and enjoy yourself.  I am free to my own opinion.  Let God be the judge.  iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 3:02 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC   You are 'nescient of contemporary literature' (ignorant) and 'one who treats others with condescension' (patronising) when it comes to the RCC. I'm neither impressed with your RCC history nor with whatever your current RCC connections might be. So..........I engage the RCC along with its cousin The Orthodox Churches. The content of their faith, JESUS, is as reliable as THE ONE IN WHOM YOU TRUST.     As to the so-called reference in Revelation, it has nought to do with the RCC. ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 24, 2005 14:04 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC   Lance, It seems that this scripture has provoked your RCC spirit, judging from your follow-up posts to me.  I’ve noticed many times over the years how folks of the RCC persuasion turn rabid against anyone who speaks against the RCC, unlike people of any other faith.  I consider that reaction to be completely demonic in spirit.  I’ve plenty of experience with the RCC, having been raised in such a family, and exposed to many catholics over my lifetime.  It was an education to say the least.  I have learned to love catholics while hating Catholicism. As I have said in the past, I believe catholics can be saved, but that is in spite of the RCC theological obstacles put in their paths.  God overlooks our doctrinal errors, I believe, if we truly trust in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, no matter what our denominational heritage.  Personally I am non-denominational, and would never go back to anything else.   To answer your question, I don’t see how you can read the verses below and see anything other than the RCC.  What specifically do you think would not refer to the RCC? Just read the history of the popes and you will see the whoredom.  There certainly is no institution on earth that has outdone the RCC in shedding the blood of the martyrs.  And why do you think it refers to the city of the seven mountains?  I’d like to discuss it if you can be calm about it.  iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:03 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC   Linda:I do recollect your mention of an RCC family connection but, I'd be most interest in your demonstration (biblically) that the RCC is the 'whore of revelation'. What with Kevin, Dean, Charles, David, Judy and, yourself ONLY being against things, it is rather difficult to take much of what you say seriously.  ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 21, 2005 20:05 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Lind's Opinion on RCC   Your opinion is duly noted.   jd   -------------- Original message -------------- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   The RCC is the great whore of Revelations.  I do not serve the god of the RCC.  Iz   Revelation 17  1And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:  2With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.  3So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.  4And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:  5And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.  6And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.  7And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.  8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.  9And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.  (ROME, for those of you from RioLinda.)  iz     My Jesus, Dean, IS NOT DEFINED by the traditons of men.   Was Jesus born of a virgin.  Was He , at the same time, the Son of God?  Is He the Creator of the worlds.   Was he reased from the dead ?   Is it His sacrifice that presents us with the forgiveness of sins?  Yes to all this  --  and the RCC is fully agreed on these ppoints.  The RCC differs from my theology on two general levels  -  the importances of works and the place in worship for the traditions of the Church.  A third  consideration is the role of the Church as the revelator of God in Christ. But our God is the same.     jd cd: No sir they are not the same-My God forbids Idol worship and Catholics claim there is no wrong in doing this act. Big difference. My God requires repentence for this aqct their God allows this act-not the same God.                                              judyt                                        He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments                               is a liar (1 John 2:4)                                            judyt                                        He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments                               is a liar (1 John 2:4)