In a message dated 1/3/2006 9:51:55 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine, do you consider protestants to be pagans?
Blainerb: No, I consider Protestants to be the Gentiles spoken of in
the BoM who had the Bible, which was God's word, and upon whom the Spirit of God
rested because they were righteous and sought to serve Jesus Christ as their
Lord. They were given great power over the unrighteous seed of Jacob
living in the Americas to the extent of scattering them,
and decimating their populations. I consider the Protestant movement
to have been of God, as it furnished a prelude to the restoration of the full
gospel through the Prophet Joseph Smith and others. Unfortunately, most present-day Protestants have rejected
the greater revelation, and are presently under
condemnation. The time will come when those
Gentiles who reject this latter-day message will be judged of God,
however, and the power of the remnant of Jacob will be unleashed upon
them.
The BoM predicts
that,
"My people who are a remnant of
Jacob (Lamanites, mostly) shall be among the Gentiles, yea, in the midst of
them, as a young lion among the flocks of sheep, who, if he go through
both treadeth down, and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.
Their hand shall be lifted up upon their adversaries, and all their
enemies shall be cut off. Yea, wo be unto the Gentiles, except they
repent. . . . And I will execute judgement and fury upon them,
even as upon the Heathen, such as they have not
heard."
3 Nephi 21: 12-22
In a message dated 1/3/2006 9:51:55 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine, do you consider protestants to be
pagans?
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>To:
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>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormonism &
Freemasonry
>Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 23:06:52
EST
>
>
>No doubt about it, those ancient groups were doing
bad stuff, fertility
>cultism included. But what I am saying is
documenting something from
>ancient
>times is always hard,
and I seriously doubt tracing Freemasonry back to
>those
>times could be done with so much confidence in the
findings as to be able
>to
>say confidently that such and
such is true, or such and such is not true.
>In
>fact, that would be true of almost anything.
Even Mormonism, which is
>barely
>two hundred years old,
despite an abundance of records on the subject,
>still
>has
much that cannot be said for certain about it. What it boils down
to
>in
>too many cases is that basically, we express our
opinions, pro and con,
>and
>that's about the best we can
do.
>But I can say with a high degree of confidence, that although there
are
>some
>similarities between free Masonry and the temple
Endowment ceremony, there
>are far too many fundamental differences
to conclude that one came from
>the
>other. I
have, believe it or not, studied Free Masonry, and I am
>intimately
>familiar with the ceremony in the
temple. There are just too many
other
>possibilities.
>
>In a message dated 12/31/2005
4:00:12 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
>
>No it is way before that; the ancient fertility
cults were practised in
>Canaan before God destroyed the
Amorites.
>
>On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:01:12 EST
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
writes:
>
>
>Blainerb: Freemasonry is obviously
descended from the time when the Jews
>returned from the
Babylonian captivity to Jerusalem to rebuild their
>temple
and
>the walls of the city. It is one thing to say
such as you have stated
>below, but quite another to show beyond
reasonable doubt that your
>assertions are
>correct. If you
wouldn't mind, I would like to double-check your
sources.
>
>
>In a message dated 12/27/2005 8:04:59 A.M.
Mountain Standard Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>I
have read the same Blaine and the Freemasonry rituals are based on the
>old
>Fertility Cult mystery religions which is
>the
same kind of paganism that got the Canaanite Nations exiled from
the
>Promised Land and destroyed. There is a
>sexual aspect
to both. jt
>
>On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:06:14 EST
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
writes:
>
>
>I am not aware of one, except to say, as
JS did, that he joined the
>Freemasons to obtain whatever
friendship and support they might offer in
>times
of
>duress--as you are probably aware, he was arrested on false
charges many
>times--0ver 40 times, as I recall--and abused both
physically and verbally
>a lot
>of times by antis of his
day.
>But I am sure if there is any official commentary from
Church authorities,
>Kevin would know where it would be
found. Especially if it could be used
>against the
Church. :>)
>Blainerb
>
>In a message dated
12/26/2005 10:08:36 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
>
>Does the Mormon Church have an expressed opinion
regarding freemasonary?
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