Don't you think it more than a little arrogant Bill; after all this is not your classroom.
What is arrogant, Judy, is your decision to not give a care about bringing others along with you. Rather, you treat others with whom you disagree as if they were pagans , insulting the spirit of their allegiance ("you are one with the Accuser"). It is arrogance to claim a revelation from the Spirit that others do not share. It is most frustrating.
Jesus could do nothing about the stiff necked and obdurant so what do you expect me to do about them? What did Jesus say about the scribes? (Luke 20:46) Look in the mirror when you are talking to me, girl !!
You've ended dozens of discussions with this kind of ad hom garbage. People finally just wear out and give up.
It people means you Bill, yes you do take off and go home early on. Worn out? You don't have much stamina I guess. JD just hangs in there .... Ad hom garbage? Nothing I write could be described this way and this is ad hom in itself.
Ad hom is a part of every post you offer in debate. Every post. As far as Bill doing the cut and run -- He says what needs to be said. He repeats what is necessary. He offers one or two responses and then, well, he figures he has done just about all he can do. That exchange process taks three or four post. By that time, there is little to do but defend ourselves from your personal attacks. It is pattern activity on your part and predictable to the max. Bill works about hour from his home. He doesn't get to be around the house as you do. So lay off the ad hom of "cut and run" innuendos and move on to your next character analysis.
In the meantime the real issues are almost always lost. Who gives a damn if an idea comes from me or you or the church fathers? IS IT TRUE? -- that is the question. We are not here to discuss personalities, but the truthfulness of "issues."
I'm not discussing personalities. You and Lance and Debbie S. are busy doing this. In this thread, you are correct. You have become the center of attention. Don't like it? Then stop doing it to others !! Just stay on point and you have a mush better time in discussion.
Judy -- you and DM invariably make the discussion a personal mater. We find ourselves defending ourselves -- our person -- against your charges.
How strange since I never address your persons other than to respond to accusations you make toward me. Absolutely untrue !!
Debbie S. has just announced that I am "disingenious" and Bill is nothing if not downright rude. Also DM
to my knowledge does not constantly do personal evaluations as does Lance.
You simply do not pursue a discussion without getting personal. Just does not happen. Do we get personal with you. Yep -- but never first !!!! That's right. You start it in every case.
You are just flat wrong JD, I will not accuse you of intentionally lying but the above is a lie nonetheless. Read your posts. It is everywhere.
Someone says something about the "incarnation" and how do you respond? "Why don't you just stick to the word and stop following the doctrines of men>" That IS A PERSONAL ATTACK and has nothing to with the discussion. It is begging the question because it has NOTHING TO WITH THE QUESTIONS -- and it is ad hom for that reason. Some on this forum think that an "ad hom" is a considered insult. Not true. It can be that, of course. But ad hom in debate is an illogical argument called begging the question. You and DM are masters of this maneuver. Sometimes it gets very tiresome.
My response to your six points trying to prove the "eternal sonship" or that Christ is God or whatever was
not a personal attack at all JD; it had and still has nothing to do with your person. I am disagreeing with
your assumptions. You claim that I am engrossed in an effort to get my doctrine inline with the teachings of man IS A PERSONAL attack. It implies dishonesty and deceit on my part. AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DISCUSSION AT HAND. Just like I said -- you don't even know when you are off subject.
Talk about ideas, Judy; talk about issues; leave the people behind them alone.
The above has been what I have been practicing all along .... right and I am tall dark and handsome (well, one out of three ain't bad.)
Either that or embrace the fact that on most of these issues, it is you who is the heretic.
