Judy is like a rebellious teenager, as far as I am concerned. She has been approached by those of us who seem (read: SEEM) to be opposed to her out of grace as well as frustration. It makes no difference.
I have two choices. One is to give her credit for having the ability to usnerstand what is being said and respond with grace and patience while disagreeing. The other is to believe that she simply lacks the ability to carry on a discussion and to think on a critical level (and critical , here, means "to question, search seek ti apprehend) level.
I do not regard it as "wrong" to protest being treated as a fraud, attached to the Accuser and full of blindness.
If anyone of my loved ones were in need of loving counsel and patient understanding, I would not send them to Judy.
I even took time to offer her a truce. I beleive the Spirit led me to write that post. She decided I was setting her up and refused to even ocnsider the post !!!
I should have made this decision back then.
A sign of fellowship with God is the attitude we have for the brethren (I John).
There are things that we do that indicate whether we are being submissive to the God within. I do not make judgment about her destiny -- just how she treats other people.
DM does her no good whatsoever, as a pastor, to defend her belligerence. She needs correction. I am not excuding her from fellowship, by the way - I am just recognizing the obvious -- she does not regard me, Lance, Bill, G and whoever as being part of the fellowship of the saints and has nothing to gain from agreeing or even discussing anything with us.
Her attitude should be of great concern to those who continue to have her respect.
jd
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From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
----- Original Message -----From: Judy TaylorTo: [email protected]Sent: 1/8/2006 3:30:21 PMSubject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the hereticYou can call me whatever you like so long as it's OK with the moderators, it's your consciencethat should be being defiled by such bitterness. I don't understand why when you agree thatthis is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean to sit under Baxter Krugerand hear all about the "dancing trinity" This should be enlightening for him. Why don't you admitto him that it is a group who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at least been open with him aboutthat?cd: Sister I thank you for your concern but if any member on this list is presenting the truth of God's word-regardless of it's origin I will support that truth. If this truth is presented incorrectly then I will disagree-some with strong disagreements other with my on timing as to when I will disagree or overlook to achieve a higher goal of destroying the wall completely-if possible.If God's words are presented to deceive then trust God's work in me to discern that deception, but thank you again for your concern. I hope this isn't taken as hard words as they are not meant to be so to you:-) I will add that I believe it is wrong for John or Bill to speak to you in the manner they are doing and I hope they can change even as I am trying to change-why not help them change-kindness goes a long way even to one's enemies. Question: Is it possible that most are here to learn not to tear down?On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:"because the understanding you have come back with is that of the Church Fathers ..."If the Church fathers make the difference, then you are correct, Judy:when speaking of God, I am orthodox -- and that makes you the heretic. Got anyproblems with that, then whine to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad to sharethe bottle with you. BillFrom: Judy TaylorYou may need to take another trip Bill because the understanding you have come back withis that of the Church Fathers who by their words and actions (fruit) negated their profession.
