Re: Fw: [TruthTalk]The Devil made me do it

[knpraise]

Look,  if it is sin for me to continue  -- THEN STOP ASKING ME QUESTIONS.  Got it !! 

 

You love making false accusations  (and THAT is sin) but object when I try to set the record straight.  

 

We are done with regard to the discussion of biblical issues.   

 

jd

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From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 

When you wrote your missive about being through talking with me JD did you just mean that you were

going to go on talking but instead of talking to me up front you would now be talking about me?  Big

waste of time for all concerned - and not only that it is SIN.

 

On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 21:45:32 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If you are going to communicate with
her, you will have to learn to understand and respect this aspect about her.

 

DavidM speaks of Judy's notion that the scriptures and the Spirit are all that she needs, whether we argree or disagress. 

 

And what is lost in this fantasy, is the fact that DM and Judy have confused "respect" with "communication"  (read:discussion).   I can respect someone who believes in the exclusivity of the these two ideas for their own personal advancement.    As regards communicating my views and defending then,  I do not need to do anything but share those ideas.  Period.   If "paradigm" describes more than simple positioning,   if it expresses a broader relationship to the intellectual properties (in this case) of assumptions and bias,   Judy and I are worlds apart.  What makes it impossible is her persistent  claim to some form of  "devil worship" as she opposes the shared opinions of others.   She, in fact, is NOT communicating at all when she gets to this opinion   -- and she gets there within one or postings !!!  And she isn't the only one.   It is begging the question to introduce anything that takes us off sub ject.  It is begging the question  to introduce into the discussion those elements that are not critical nor germaine to  the pursuit of the debate. 

 

And so I end with this thought :  You are completely and totally responsible for your own words... (and the attitude behind them)  jt

jd

 

 

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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I think you are yet again misunderstanding what Judy meant by these words.
> The words you quote correspond exactly to what I have said. I read her
> statement, "None of what you are saying has anything to do with me," as
> saying, "you are presenting straw men arguments." She is saying that YOU,
> not HER, is the one totally responsible for the misunderstanding of her
> position by your constant misrepresentation of what she believes.
>
> It seems to me that Judy just wants to deal with issues from a Scriptural
> perspective without all the personal attitude dialogue that you guys keep
> injecting into the discussion. She also has an aversion to going outside
> the Bible for evidence or arguments. You guys, for some reason, have a lot
> of problems with this. Judy feels that the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit
> is enough to guide her into all truth. Whether or not you agree with her
> about this persepctive, this is Judy. If you are going to communicate with
> her, you will have to learn to understand and respect this aspect about her.
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic
>
> None of what you are saying has anything to do with me
> You are completely and totally responsible for your own words... (and the
> attitude behind them) jt
>
> DavidM -- you might take to heart the words of Miz Judy above next time
> you see fit to blame her attitude on anyone other than herself.
>
> jd
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ; ;
> None of what you are saying has anything to do with me
> You are completely and totally responsible for your own words... (and the
> attitude behind them)
>
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:02:11 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes:
> This must be an aberrent type....
> I don't know, Judy. I've always thought it all aberrant. I'm just using what
> I've learned from you.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Judy Taylor
> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic
>
>
> I've read books on "tough love" and none ever included bitterness and name
> calling.
>
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:53:10 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes:
>
> From: Judy Taylor
>
>
> Methinks you know not what spirit you are of ...
> I know what Spirit I am of.
>
> and you have undoubtedly become just like your teachers ... (Augustine,
> Athanasius et al)
> You have more in common with Augustine than I.
>
> Where's the love???
> You don't see the love, Judy? This is that tough love you are always
> spouting.
> One would think it recognizable -- you being so familiar with it yourself.
>
> Bill
>
>
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes:
> ... when you agree that this is where your beliefs are rooted ...
>
> I do not agree that this is where my beliefs are rooted, Judy.
> I hold beliefs in common with the Patristics which are rooted in Scripture.
>
>
> ... have you at least been open with him about that?
>
> I am sure there is much I do not know about Street Preaching:
> do what want Dean to come clean on that before we head down there?
> Mind your own business, heretic. Bill > From: Judy Taylor
>
> You can call me whatever you like so long as it's OK with the moderators,
> it's your conscience
> that should be being defiled by such bitterness. I don't understand why
> when you agree that
> this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean to sit
> under Baxter Kruger
> and hear all about the "dancing trinity" This should be enlightening for
> him. Why don't you admit
> to him that it is a group who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at least
> been open with him about
> that?
>
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes:
> "because the understanding you have come back with is that of the Church
> Fathers ..."
>
> If the Church fathers make the difference, then you are correct, Judy:
> when speaking of God, I am orthodox -- and that makes you the heretic. Got
> any
> problems with that, then whine to the m oderators. I'm sure they'll be glad
> to share
> the bottle with you. Bill
> From: Judy Taylor
>
> You may need to take another trip Bill because the understanding you have
> come back with
> is that of the Church Fathers who by their words and actions (fruit) negated
> their profession.
>
>
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